ya it just seemed the way your post was layed out that this guy was "sum of all CMA"
he seems like a schmuck to me...
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ya it just seemed the way your post was layed out that this guy was "sum of all CMA"
he seems like a schmuck to me...
I'd say he is representative of the type of CMA practitioner who does little or no sparring (and the sparring he does is all light to medium contact), has "deadly" eye gouge, throat ripping, knee stomping, fat grabbing, and "combat" head throwing techniques that he can't use at full force, and spends a big portion of his training time doing forms.
He is also a much better representative of the type of person that DJ was describing.
The people who are the sum total (at least in terms of fighting) of what CMA has to offer are the ones who are fighting in San Shou and MMA.
I don't think he has that much skill. Now, he could probably beat the living crap out of most of us, but in the world of streetfighting--he's got a way to go. He doesn't exactly pick the "best of the best" to fight against.
I saw a fat dude with dreads, one guy who told him to "chill brotha!" after getting shltc0cked in the eye, and this white boy who looked like he wanted to play pattycake (and then turned his back and started walking away after having his nose busted).....
I'd like to see him take on someone of some skill. Hell, that cop dude beat him. And then it was like that guy in the B-rad movie: "All that bigness for nuthin'..."
I'm not saying Kimbo sucks. So spare me that. But have you seen any real quality fighters in Kimbo vids? If so, tell me why.....
School me to the game here.
*Note* -- I'm posting the links for the individual fights. They are on YouTube but they are very grainy on that site. Just a warning, there are some NSFW ads on the sublimedirectory site ...
Kimbo vs. "The Bouncer"
http://www.sublimedirectory.com/figh...vs_bouncer.wmv
Undercard:
Ray vs. Jose & Jorge
http://www.sublimedirectory.com/figh...jose_jorge.wmv
I'll post my comments on the fights in the next post, so as not to spoil the results ...
Kimbo vs. "The Bouncer" -- seems like Kimbo found another can. Bouncer seemed to be really out of shape and off balance when throwing those hooks. Yes, he's a big guy but he didn't seem to show much skill -- sloppy hooks and looked to be a pure brawler. Quite the knot on his forehead following the scuffle eh? I'd like to see Kimbo fight someone at his skill level...
Ray vs. Jose & Jorge -- Well, Ray made short work of Jose, the 1st dude. That guy looked really nervous and inexperienced -- notice how stiff and tense he keeps his whole arms when the fight starts, and how jerky his footwork is. The guy didn't stand a chance (well, everyone has a puncher's chance I suppose, but he was obviously outclassed). Ray was ready for more but he got a little more than he could handle with Jorge. Now Jorge obviously has been in a fight or 2 before -- much more relaxed, better footwork, decent defense, and some good endurance. Ray got gassed pretty quick and was obviously desperate, trying to pull out the spinning backfist time and time again to no avail. Props to Ray for hanging in as long as he did -- tough guy, but finally someone from Kimbo's crew gets beat.
Does Kimbo fight in any actual venues aginst big names in MMA? Or just these street fights against local toughs?
Last guy with the long hair looked like the underdog, but turned out to be skilled... nice fight- both guys in that last fight showed lots of heart, getting up after taking shots and working when being gassed.
Rumor is that Kimbo is going to fight an ex-boxing title holder (Ray Mercer?) in an MMA rules fight.
Yeah, I thougt the skinny kid did really well. He had an especially good commad of the ranges.
Kimbo fought Sean Gannon once and lost, heh, I remeber Joe Rogan acting like Gannon was the second coming of Christ when he fought in the UFC.
LOL....:D
I bet kimbo would beat up ray pina even with all his internal training lol.
how would YOU do against either of them?
Yeah that second fight was a good fight...they both went the distance...after a while they were both just running on heart.
What are the rules in those fights? No grappling? Is it basicaly boxing or kickboxing? (I think i seen a kick thrown) Entertaining nevertheless, thnx