Originally Posted by lada
I am still reading the other replies. This constant reference to fear sticks in my craw. It is not fear. What gay boils down to in the most basic terms among humans as a tribal animal is submission and dominance.
Men are naturally dominant. They fight with each other to determine the ranking of their dominance. More importantly, when a man needs sex, what does he do? He goes to the female and intimidates her into acceding to his desire. We are talking primitive human, not modern society.
Gay is bad because who does a gay want sex with? Another man. Gay sex is about domination. The gay man wants the other man to submit and allow him to perform sex with him. A straight man is going to interpret this sexual aggressiveness as a challenge to his dominance and will react violently. Quite rightly. Not out of fear.
If a man comes up to you and punches you in the face, you stand up for yourself or you lose your ranking in the tribal dominance structure. If some man comes up to you and starts pushing you into gay sex, if you do nothing and allow it to happen, do you think you still have respect in the eyes of the tribe? No. The tribe thinks you are a weakling who cannot even defend himself from the advances of a womanly man. Or doesn't want to.
(This happened to me personally. As a young kid, I got a job at a corporation. There was the yearly christmas party to attend. One of the big bosses from over at the main building comes over and is talking to me. Then some other boss is talking to me. I am a stupid kid, I talk to them, thank them, bull**** with them. I want to do good, make money.
Then later on, all these people start saying gay stuff to me. "oh you are like that huh?" and other comments. It turns out these two bosses were both gay. They used their boss position to obtain sex from young new hires like me. Good thing I was so naive and stupid. I didn't have a clue what they wanted. If I would have known I would have made a big scene so no false rumors got started.)
Men force women to submit to sex. Therefore women are lesser, weaker, lower on the dominance scale. If a gay man is forcing or pushing another man into sex, that man is weak. He is playing the woman's role by allowing the gay man's advances. Unless he fights back, calls the gay man names or physically accosts him, it looks to outsiders as if he is allowing the seduction of the gay man.
This is all kind of ugly. But if you look past civilization, we are still tribal animals down deep. In our personal relationships and emotional interactions, we still act primitive. Only technology makes people seem to be advanced.
You can see how people really are in the TV shows we watch. All of those people are human beings. What they do can in general be applied to us.
I watch reality TV shows where there is competition between 2 teams. In almost every one of these shows that I watch, there are gay members of the teams. In these shows, the gay person is always they odd one out and always one of the first people to be chosen to leave. No matter what people say or how openminded they are, gay people do not fit.
The women want to have sex with the men. The men want to have sex with the women. The men don't want sex with the gay man. The gay man doesn't want sex with the woman. Where does the gay man belong? He doesn't want women, the men don't want him, Boom, out the door he goes. What good is he to the team?