Father of murdered child vows to kill the murderer when he is released

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Originally Posted by Lucas

okay so ive always wondered. if God is all powerful in the literal sense of the meaning that god has no boundaries and can do all then why wasnt everything created as all good and no bad?

is it that it cant do everything or that it is a sadistic entity that for some reason is unwilling to remove suffering to 'prove a point' to its own creation that it must imbue with evil since it creates all. why doesnt it just remove evil entirely then there is no reason for any suffering.

not trying to offend, simply curious.

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Removal of evil?
Not sure what you mean...
Evil is a human trait, perhaps even an angelic trait, that comes with free will, God can't remove evil it would be going against the very essence that God is.
Hurricanes aren't evil, earthquakes aren't evil, people commit evil acts because they know the difference between right and wrong and doing wrong is "evil" and for God to stop that it would mean eliminating free will.

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Originally Posted by sanjuro_ronin

No, not really in THAT way.
Sin is the result of human's being "fallen and broken" for the "original sin" of the frist Humans, Adam and Eve.
Its the heriditary state of pride and arrogance that we all have, the notion that we don't need God, that we can be like God and that there is no consequences for that.
That is THE sin, Pride and arrogance of Man.
We are broken untill we realize that, as being in the image of God, we need God to be complete.
We can't do it without God, we can't control anything and are doomed to fail over and over until we realize that.

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you can see how that would be offensive to some, right? how can you not discriminate if you really believe that?


personally, i dont really care... it annoys me that i have to live in a society whos laws are based on your values, but it could be worse, thats for sure...

i wish people had the same faith in a real democracy...

totally...okay so i understand the duality aspect of the relationship...but the only thing that irks me is that God shouldnt be concerned with boredom....can we even apply a thing like that to an entity of that magnitude and nature? Does God have emotions? if so is God swayed as easily as humans by those emotions? if not are they truly emotions?

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Originally Posted by sanjuro_ronin

Removal of evil?
Not sure what you mean...
Evil is a human trait, perhaps even an angelic trait, that comes with free will, God can't remove evil it would be going against the very essence that God is.
Hurricanes aren't evil, earthquakes aren't evil, people commit evil acts because they know the difference between right and wrong and doing wrong is "evil" and for God to stop that it would mean eliminating free will.

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you tricky b@stard lol

If God didn't get bored, then why the F**** are we here? I just can't come up with any other reason, even if this one doesn't quite make sense? :)
Maybe that's why Buddhas are higher than Gods?

i thought his reasons were for love...

<<Maybe that's why Buddhas are higher than Gods?>>

Buddhas are higher than Gods because what they smoke...

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Originally Posted by Lucas

you tricky b@stard lol

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LMAO !!!
*bows head*

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Originally Posted by Syn7

you can see how that would be offensive to some, right? how can you not discriminate if you really believe that?


personally, i dont really care... it annoys me that i have to live in a society whos laws are based on your values, but it could be worse, thats for sure...

i wish people had the same faith in a real democracy...

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I don't understand your post...discriminate?

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Originally Posted by Lucas

totally...okay so i understand the duality aspect of the relationship...but the only thing that irks me is that God shouldnt be concerned with boredom....can we even apply a thing like that to an entity of that magnitude and nature? Does God have emotions? if so is God swayed as easily as humans by those emotions? if not are they truly emotions?

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Us trying to understand God and his nature is like an ameoba trying to understand quantum physics.

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Originally Posted by sanjuro_ronin

No, not really in THAT way.
Sin is the result of human's being "fallen and broken" for the "original sin" of the frist Humans, Adam and Eve.
Its the heriditary state of pride and arrogance that we all have, the notion that we don't need God, that we can be like God and that there is no consequences for that.
That is THE sin, Pride and arrogance of Man.
We are broken untill we realise that, as being in the image of God, we need God to be complete.
We can't do it without God, we can't controll anything and are doomed to fail over and over until we realise that.
Satan is our accuser and opposer, he is not the rival of God, he is OUR rival, pointing out to God how much we suck ass, LOL !
Does he involve himself directly?
Some believe so, but his power is what is given to him by humans.
He was the original fallen angel who, like humans, wanted to be like God and didn't need God, his jealousy of the gift given to the humans is what drove him to rebel.

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This is hippy mumbo jumbo.

God got ****ed because Adam became self-aware. No more. No less. And he rained hell down on humans because of it.

The whole story is ridiculous, anyway. But to worship a diety that still punishes people for the acts of a man and woman 1,000 generations before is asinine.

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Originally Posted by MasterKiller

I'd do it, too.

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I would commit some crime so I could go to jail and finish that task earlier. Trying to help a bad guy to go to hell sooner is always a good deed.

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Originally Posted by sanjuro_ronin

Us trying to understand God and his nature is like an ameoba trying to understand quantum physics.

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We have the knowledge of God.

"For God knows that in the day you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."

Not eating from the Tree of Life and becoming immortal is the only difference between humans and God after they eat from the Tree of Knowledge.

Then the LORD God said, "Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil; and now, he might stretch out his hand, and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever "--

God just wanted us to be dumb apes, but Adam and Eve defy him and become self-aware, which is the ultimate slap in the face for him because he just wanted some stupid drones that never questioned his authoirty.

Sounds like more of a slave-owner than a divine being worthy of my adoration.

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Originally Posted by Syn7

no wonder you guys are falling faster than anyone else can keep up with...

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Huh?

Texas is one of (if not the) best States for jobs and real estate markets. You can't drive to the store without seeing at least one car with out of State tags full of refugees fleeing their home States to come here for opportunity. California is the most common one. Gee, I wonder why...

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Originally Posted by Syn7

i feel sorry for the good people you take down with you... enjoy your shiny stuff, its the best you can do with that mentaility...

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If we are taking so many people down with us, why is Texas one of the fastest growing States?

I do enjoy my things. I work hard and I enjoy the fruits of my labor.

And I'm putting some new mods on the Stang this weekend too! :D

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Originally Posted by MasterKiller

Sounds like more of a slave-owner than a divine being worthy of my adoration.

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Yeah, those slave owners were notorious for giving their only begotten sons so the slaves could have salvation.