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it used to be a rare style.
it was popularized during kuo shu guan era among civilian and military in China.
ma yin tu/ma feng tu introduced it into kuo shu guan curriculum
it was popularized among college students in taiwan via wu tan.
ma feng tu popularized the style in northwest of china.
it is now popular in japan only second to tai chee (CMA in Japan).
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na king central guo shu guan -> military,
wu tan -> taiwan college students---
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I think that
there are at least 2 baji schools in hongkong near where you live.
1. wutan, liu shi wu yi
2. chang chun ba ji (lineage from huo dian ge-> tan ji tang-> --- )
may search or look them up.
if you are interested in learning more.
:)
is chang chun similar to wing chun?
Ah. . .
The number of forms is vastly exaggerated. Baji is pretty **** sparse in the forms department actually. The Wiki lists:
lol. They gave 7 examples of forms I've never heard of and didn't bother listing any of the main forms that pretty much everybody does. Also, calling some of those things "forms" is pretty generous. It would be like calling the Xingyi 5 element fists a "form". For "fist" Baji pretty much just has large and small frame and that's it. 2 solo forms and 1 2-person form. Then there's a number of single movement drills like the Jingang Bashi or the Yingshou Ba Tang but those aren't forms. They are sets of drills, just single attacking patterns to be repeated back and forth.Quote:
...more than 20 different forms, including 12 Baji Small Structure Fists, Baji Black Tiger Fist, Baji Dan Zhai, Baji Dan Da/Dui Da, Baji Luo Han Gong, and Baji Si Lang Kuan.
Prolly some school out there comes from a lineage where somebody made up a bunch of other stuff and threw there own school curriculum up there on the Wiki. Baji weapons are sparse too. You got Sabre, staff, spear and that's about it. I've seen a Miao Dao form out there but it was just the Sabre form performed with a Miao Dao so that doesn't count in my book. ;)
Yes and no, respectively.Quote:
Is this similar to Chen style Tai Chi and Ba Gua?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ObA9OQOmKI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raMJp...eature=related
These are two of those seven
Yeah, like I was saying. . . lol.
That's Shen Jiarui from the Wu Xiufeng group. It's somewhat well known that Wu Xiufeng added all sorts of stuff. Lot's of material that just came from Wu Xiufeng and is not part of the standard Baji curriculum. Secondly, that "danda" is just Dabaji. Don't know why it's labeled like that but it's still one of the 2 solo forms I mentioned. It's the large frame.
The Wiki also really dumbs down the Liu Da Kai:
They are supposed to be jin/energies/qualities of movement, not tactics.Quote:
Ding 頂: using the fist, elbow or shoulder to push forward and upward.
Bao 抱: putting arms together as if hugging someone. It is usually followed by Pi 劈 (splitting).[5]
Ti 提: elevating the knee to hit the thigh of the opponent, or elevating the foot to hit the shin of the opponent, etc.
Dan 單: using a single move.
Kua 胯: using the hip.
Chan 纏: entanglement with rotation around the wrist, elbow and shoulder
Wiki's are notoriously weak when it comes to MA.
good job from the mod.
nice merging of an old thread with the new.
:)
so what would you guys/girls consider to be the right part of the forum to post about bajiquan? I just recently started training it and I was wondering who else here does or has done some of this awesome style?
main forum.