That's fine... the disconnect comes when people do them in isolation and never train them against takedowns, but then think they are invulnerable to takedowns.
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Sort of... the experience of training live against someone who knows how to do takedowns vs. pretending to do them with complying partners who have never had takedown training.
Of course, there is also more to defending takedowns than just working stances. One has to know the differences of how to counter specific takedowns, as well as how to counter all of their setups that lead to the takedown. Low singles are countered differently, than standard singles, which are countered differently than doubles, which are countered differently than high crotches, which are countered differently than a fireman's carry. And since takedowns are often done in combos, there is the matter of the followup to the counter and the counter to that.
People who don't really do takedown training don't realize that takedowns are an entire art in and of themselves.
this makes total sense.
Very valid point here.
I like to think pretty much every aspect you can find in fighting is like this. For each person that has never delved deeply into a specific element of combat/fighting there is someone who has, and has reached a state of superior development/art.
not every takedown is a leg attack. if someone gets a bearhug either in front or behind you, especially someone bigger or stronger than you, a stance is not going to prevent them from lifting and slamming you.
Of course balance and posture help (somewhat) to defend takedowns, but it must work in conjunction with many other things.
The guy whom my kids and I study wrestling with (exert from the web site I already posted):
I am not asking anyone to take my word for it that I can defend a take down. But please stop insulting they guy I'm training with. He's dam good and doesn't deserve to be bashed by ignorant @ss hattery.Quote:
BRIAN WOOD
(Head Submission Grappling Instructor /Trainer)
BRIAN WOOD’S STYLES AND EXPERTISE:
FREESTYLE GRAPPLING / JU-JITSU / VING TSUN KUNG FU
BACKGROUND:
“With twenty years experience I have grown as an athlete and evolved as a Mixed Martial Artist. As a former Nationally Ranked Division 1A Wrestler I have adapted my own style in accordance to my personal instruction for students and members. I realize now that wrestling was only a stepping stone and I have been studying many styles such as Ving Tsun Kung Fu, Muay Thai, Ju-Jitsu and Jeet Kune Do. I train to be the best Martial Artist I can be while practicing Non-Violence. Recently I have Placed 3rd at the North American Pancrase Submission Championships in the Advanced Lightweight Division and will continue to compete in submission grappling events. I train students to become better athletes which will help them only become better Martial Artists or Sports Fighters.”
-Brian Wood (Next Level Sports Owner and Head Trainer)
You know, I hate to say it, but that might be an element you will find anywhere you train...sad to say but could be very true.
I know when I do chi sao with women i tend to be a lot softer and i pull all my strikes.
one way ive noticed in the past that a woman can get me to step up my intensity with her is if she hands me my ass.
seriously, if you ever feel a guy is not giving you what he would give a guy, press him as hard as you can.
but in our defense, its how a lot of guys were raised so its just part of our mental make up to not push as hard with women in things like this....well for guys like me anyhow.
Dunno if he could take me down. Never actually sparred with him. Every session to date has been an actual class. I started taking my kids there because the little turds need constant out-lets for thier energy or they get into mischief. I started training with them because I have a buddy who likes to brag that I can't pin him. He's right; I can't. But I figured training with a wrestler of Brian's caliber might get me to the point I can. :D
I'm curious about "Division 1A." Do you know what school he wrestled for?