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]IMHO, there is a difference between Kevin and Alan.
Secondly, I was initially just curious about a Wing Chun system that did not practice/drill elbow and knee strikes. However, in the light of the PB practioners' pompous attitude towards other lineages and practitioners, during a long time, then what I have said is not that "rude"!
No you werent just curious, youve been slagging them of since he said it and even use it as areference in other posts (see below)
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IMHO, you should get a few decades of authentic kung fu experience, before you even think about mentioning Hendrik's name. ;)
Yep, ill remember that when i need advice in waffling on
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IMHO, it is better to be intermediate within a genuine TCMA training methodology than a "sifu" in an "empty shell" school of "kung fu".
IMHO you " " too much
The problem with your "experience" and therefore "references" is that they are not really related to genuine TCMA practice, but rather MT, etc.
Ahh, so fighting is different in the TCMA world?? Magic and stuff hey??
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Is that another way of saying that your "kung fu" experience is limited to Mcdojo's that never did fighting training, therefore proving my point that you do not have any genuine TCMA references to even post in this forum?
See this is the thing, you never ask anyone their experience. You hop on the coat tails of anyone who has the same thinking as you, but when they dont agree you you put them in the "mcdojo" pile.... you know nothing of experience, lineage etc.
If they disagree... you slander
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And there is me thinking that clowns were people who posted in TCMA forums, without ever having practiced genuine TCMAs......:rolleyes:
Once again... you dont ask as it may challenge your line of arguing
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The question is wether you use elbow and knee strikes when you "fight", or are you practicing a "progressive" style of MT that has taken the knees and elbows out, because of the "risk"? LOL!
And theres the veiled reference to Kev... again
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LOL! BJJ does not have elbow and knee strikes in its original form, Wing Chun does. This is not rocket science but simple logic! LOL
Once again... how do you know?
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The same as a MT practitioners would be if he read about practitioners who had taken the elbows and knees out of Thai Boxing, because of the "risk". Practioners, who then spend their time in MT forums criticizing the more complete MT methodologies of the more authentic and complete practitioners.
As i said previously, MT is well documented for over a 100 years.... WC isnt as it harder to trace.... whos to say what the original was... you?
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By some accounts they are the same thing. So, tell me why there are no round house kicks in Wing Chun!
No they arent the same thing
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Wing Chun is a close range emphasising striking art also, wrestling isn't a STRIKING art, it is a grappling one!
Boxing doesnt elbow.... its not effective in close??
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That is a FACT! There are just so many ingredients you can take out of style of Kung fu, before it turns into something else. Again, what I said is an obvious fact, but for you it makes no sense, because you really are not a TCMA practitioner - read pure MMA. There is nothing wrong with that either, to each his own, the only problem is that you are posting in TCMA forums in a "lost in the wood" manner......
No probs... prove it then
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NO, I am telling you that you must your all of your Wing Chun arsenal, if you claim to be parcticing WING CHUN!
So if a boxer doesnt use an overhead right, he's not a boxer??
Where do you draw the line?
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Given that the skill level is the same, then it is likely that the one with the bigger variety of arsenal will win. Again, what do you think if two boxers of similar skill levels were to face each other, but one of them had drilled his elbow strikes extensively? Simple question?
Your argument has been proven wrong time and time again in MMA/UFC... more techniques doesnt mean more effective
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Genuine TCMA discussions will always sound strange for those whose only base of reference is their non-TCMA MMA experience. No worries......
Oh please.... stop waffling
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Are you implying that you are a genuine TCMA practioners?:eek:
Now I have seen everything! LOL!
You've seen nothing outside your cosy little kwoon, and never will.