ok what part of this is hard to understand??
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Originally Posted by onyomi
The thread was, "here are some SD videos that show how SD is authentic CMA." I disagreed that said videos represented authentic CMA, so I posted my opinion. There was a video linked to of Sin doing PM, which is the style I study. I also saw videos of jian and drunken style that I knew to be nonsense from my own study of the same. I commented that his PM was no good, citing specific reasons. Other people started arguing that my PM must be contemporary Wushu and not combat-applicable because it's not as rigid as Sin's, so I posted videos to show what I think authentic PM, jian and dao are supposed to be like. I was not trying to hijack the thread into another "is Shaolin-do for real," but neither was I going to just say nothing when I saw a style I do so poorly represented. I used the videos not to say, "look, SD sucks because none of the videos are as good as mine." I was saying, "look, that's not how you use the jian or do Praying Mantis--here's what it's supposed to be like."
Anyway, I'll limit any further comments I make in this thread to the specific performances and videos posted.
The forms are authentic and chinese in origin..it is just the practitioners show no signs of this..(Refering to the videos posted on the csc website) ..another reason that you can not see it is because the Gi throws you and many people off...it is a psychological thing ....but I will not get into that now..
who are you to judge whether someones PM is any good? you said yourself that you are no master..... you have not shown us "your" version of what " real pm" is or looks like...you have posted youtube videos of master leong(sp?)...which is highly suspect.....yes ...he does great forms ...and in my opinion has the proper amount of everything that is needed...
Now here is one that makes me laugh.....you have posted what "YOU THINK " is real praying mantis .....here is the problem .....you did not think... at least not very much..you have to use facts here...which can be followed by your opinion....as long as it is based on the facts..... not your opinions based on nothing of any substantial or factual basis.....
Another one of your comments was.... that anyone with at least 6 months of training in praying mantis could see that he was doing it wrong...How is that possible?? did you think that one through before you posted it??...that is just plain stupid and shows your ignorance on this subject...
Can you prove that Master Leong is your master?? where is his lineage from? can you provide documented proof of it and his connection to that lineage??until you can... your words mean nothing to me and as far as I am concerned...a waste of space...
and by the way....Please post your mantis forms with you perfoming them....this is another way to prove that you know anything about the subject.....
you have got to be kidding!?!?!
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Originally Posted by onyomi
My teacher's name is Zhou. Kung-fu Loung is the name of his school. Even if I posted a video of myself doing a form you might say, "how do we know that's really you?" I get my info. about PM from him and he got his from a well-established master, Wang Songting.
I said someone with only six months of PM training would see something wrong with Sin's mantis because that's not how the Mantis hand is used, according to the way I've been taught. If you say "yes it is," then we'll just have to agree to disagree.
Thanks for the correction....
You have not posted any documented proof ...are we suppose to just take your word for it?
and you are right we would have no way of knowing if it is you or not.
I am still curious as to how someone with only 6 months of training can come to any conclusions about this topic or ,any other, regarding the martial arts ??
according to what YOU have been taught?? come on....
Someone has to exhaust all there efforts, research from multiple sources, and study with different teachers/masters to come up with a definative conclusion that Master Sin is doing his mantis fingers right or wrong good or bad...
Have you done that? has anyone else here done that??...NO!!
these things are still a matter of perception....stay tuned folks..I am all over this... like white on rice....