I had seen it before and I am no CLF expert at all but honestly I can't see much resemblance to CLF in there.
As you said, it's very classic Lama and it looks really familiar as very similar to the Pak Hok we practice.
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Does anyone have information on Kingston Ku from this article, The Deadly Fighting Principles of White Crane Kung Fu?:
http://books.google.com/books?id=bNI...page&q&f=false
The name is new to me and a quick Google search turns up nothing. Thanks.
Hey guys, I was wondering how much does the mui fah jeong play into the training of these styles? The reason I ask is that at my school, David Chin being my sifu, we train forms and footwork on the mui fah, then I see some lama people do the needle in cotton (name? sorry) on the mui fah. I was wondering what the benefit is of this.
Hope all is well,
Will
My sifu put some posts arranged in the plum flower pattern, he told me, kind of like the "5" on a dice, and was doing some form on the posts...i should ask him what it was.
Huh...thats actually really cool. In my sifus hop gar system we don't have that form. What we do up on the forms is train the kay men bo and the white crane striking, more commonly known as seven star continuous striking. The whole body elimination thing is trained up there as well.
Wow...you are very kind...hahaha all I can say is anything can help. My voice teacher is HIGHLY underrated and needs much more recognition. Thanks again.
All the lama schools have stories about this, if not exactly the same methods. In my tradition we start with Mui Fa Johng on 5 posts in a quincunx pattern (like the 5 spots on a gaming die) then move on to a slightly more elaborate take on the same form, Dai Johng Muih Fa, with a nine-post pattern. This is completely different from the fourteen-post needle-in-cotton posts.
The ability to jump up onto the posts is a difficult skill to achieve in itself. After becoming adept at the footwork the posts were gradually pared to a smaller diameter with a spokeshave until the tops were only a few inches in diameter. The problem with this sort of skill, according to my sifu, is that your steps become so habitual it is hard to vary your footwork--steps will always tend to be the same distance.
Thats some interesting stuff. We have different mui fah patterns as well...not to far though to actually know them.
Hahahaha we just use a step up to them hahahaha The way we work it is that hardwiring these steps isn't bad, as long as you learn the different angles and the like. Hard to explain though, but it makes sense when fighting hahahaha
That seems to be the norm nowadays. But it used to be a display of skill, like getting back onto a lei tai after being knocked off. Try this: the jong should be taller than head height and you jump up to cap the top with your hands, then pull yourself up as if leapfrogging the post but land on your feet. The balancing is easy compared to the mount. I was always afraid I would overshoot and break my neck. Instead, I lost some chin skin by not being committed to the vault. It's a cruel and unforgiving training partner...but then you get the bragging rights. A manly display of strength. That's what kung fu is about, no?
ah thats a nice solution.
The highest I was able to jump up was chest height but today waist height is what I maintain. the old back is giving out these days:(
Mostly I do the patterns on 2' heigh and 4" wide post .
its nice to see a resurgence in this type of training even if its mostly being done by Lion Dance Teams
this clip brings back funny memories and scars:D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h82qJYVZBro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxz6Bt80zuc
Clever...hahahaha yeah, my sihing has some videos posted.
Beginner level pattern
Thats all that is posted that actually shows footwork up on the posts.
Jdhowland:
I understand, but thats just a whole nother thing pretty much.
This may be of interest if you haven't seen it yet. Sifu Mckee Quan of Bak Hok:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtI28PPFa5o