what is your belt level??Quote:
Originally Posted by Judge Pen
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what is your belt level??Quote:
Originally Posted by Judge Pen
I have read the past few posts and know beyond a shadow of a doubt that many that post here have little or no knowledge of physical training principles as far as contractile and non-contractile fibers are concerned. Training the way some have posted is rediculous your Martial Arts Career will certainly be cut short. I was a personal trainer for many years and knew guys who trained for 3-4 hours a day . It went like this 1 set of 12 reeeeeesssssttttt, 2nd set of twelve etc. Get my drift train at 95% for 1 hour or 5% for ten hours see who makes the most gains. Also cycle the program so as not to over train.
As far as having standards what if one of the standards was to do the Side splits and you cant do it but you can do all of the forms perfect? Sorry you cant do the splits so no Black Belt Sash or whatever. Get my drift . Martial arts are a personal journey compare your self to yourself yesterday are you better or show improvement ? Good then you can pass. Just like porn stars all Martial Artists are not gifted equally. KC :rolleyes:
Yes, but no other topics are not being discussed. Only SD is. I think it pushes a lot of people away from the Shaolin forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by Judge Pen
it is a SD thread ..what else is suppose to be talked about here???duhQuote:
Originally Posted by Flying-Monkey
Word.Quote:
Originally Posted by kwaichang
10 characters.........
Did I say that it was all physical and like you descibed?? NO...Quote:
Originally Posted by kwaichang
you should read the whole post before you decide to respond..
.....and please do not take what I say out of context.....if you would like me to specify then ask and I will do so..
as far a standards you know what I mean..
of course certain people have limitations physically but that should not stop them from knowing the physical mechanics of the splits and being able to teach that to others who can...
you can what if about anything.... we are talking about what is.... and the standards for levels up to and past black belt are sub par for the most part....
many of these people just memorize the material, can not perform it, or help others do it ..so there has to be standards
a black belt should be able to do certain things if not they do not need or deserve to be a black belt .....
and in the future if you are going to refer to someones posts address it directly instead of the way that you did ( indirectly)
...get my drift???
Duh?Quote:
Originally Posted by tattooedmonk
I am talking about in Shaolin forum.
TTM, I just wanna say that you are catching all this flack (this time around) because your post was pretty vague, and you made it sound like you train for nine hours a day, and that you advocate some pretty intense training hours. Then it turns out that you are actually advocating something different (ie. time spent reading and studying, etc). When I read the post, I took it as working out for nine hours a day, which I think is how most others have taken it as well. I know you said, if people have questions about your statements they should just ask, but that's not really how it works around here. You gotta make yourself really clear. So, I think it's all a misunderstanding.
Anyway, over the summer, I've been training (read: working with weights or kung fu) on average of 15 hours a week. Weights typically make up three to four of those, depending on how many days I lift that week.
Let me tell ya. It's getting rough, and I'm looking forward to easing off once the semester starts up. I don't know how the heck competitive athletes/fighters can handle the prolonged stress on their bodies!
if you look back.... it was in reference to the comment about football players and yes part of workingout is studying and reading.Quote:
Originally Posted by ninthdrunk
sometimes more and sometimes less time is spent on the physical but that does not take away from the work ( time or effort or kung fu)..
besides teaching martial arts I am a personal trainer so most times that time is exceeded...
I am up at 5am and in bed by midnight
you all think inside the box and do not think to ask anyone specifically what they mean before you jump to conclusions.
who says I am catching any flack??
I am not catching anything ....it is just like insulting someone, you only get insulted if you allow yourself to be
..that is why most people who practice martial arts are hobbiest and not martial artist
I will answer question how they are asked . if they are vague and general they will be responded to in the same manner
what are you about brown belt level??
the only topics in the whole forum on Shaolin isabout SD ?? what are you blind?? even if this was the case you could start your own thread talking about non Sd subjects!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Flying-Monkey
that is pretty good !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxwang
What do you SD people know about this group?
http://www.spiritoftheheart.org/
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Indonesian Kung-Fu is a beautiful and fluid fighting art which encompasses explosive movements and calm. Explore the movements and fighting styles of the monkey, tiger, snake, and crane.
Well I read a martial arts book last week it took me 15 hours , whew that was hard training I almost sweated. True understanding comes from doing not reading., If you were clearer then we, me and others, could comment better. IMO YOU cannot train at an intensity level that you imply, to attain an increased level of ability, or even 6 hours "of physical " training wihout over training. If you want to debate training principle of the Physical then bring it on. KC
did you get any thing out of it??Quote:
Originally Posted by kwaichang
did you practice anything that was taught in it??
have you commited any of it to memory?
have you thought about the principles and techniques in it.
if you knew anything.....you would know that the same amount of energy can be utilized by the mind as the body.
.to spend that much time reading something, getting something from it ,you applied the same amount of work load on your mind that you would have on your body
that is why people, no matter if they are blue collar or white collar, are tired by the end of the day..get a clue
just like physical abuse and mental abuse register in the same part of the brain ..because it is abuse just the same
obviuosly you do not know how to train anything other than the physical/external
have you learned any of the internal arts?? do you practice Qi gong ?? for real??
because if you did it would invalidate everything that you are saying..
and you are right ....true understanding does not come from just reading. it comes also from comprehending, learning, asking questions , studying, memorizing, and appyling what you have read...
obviously you did not do anything other than read my post ...
or you would understand.....
As I posted, long time lurker. Judge Pen, I respect his approach to this discussion. Debate can be civil yet vigorous. There are passionate viewpoints concerning SD, and I respect that. Yet I think we can debate this in a civil manner. I pose a question to Judge Pen, who can discuss in a ciivil manner yet advocate his position. Do you ever wonder if you are beng taught many disparate forms without learning the real meaning behind them? Studying in SD gave me fullfillment, but did not take me to the next step. I was disappointed ultimately in the approach. Honestly, I have great affection for those who taught me, but I have developed serious questions about the methodology of the course of study.