I'm not sure that anything could explain my avatar. I'm just chalking it up to my own fevered imagination.
:)
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I'm not sure that anything could explain my avatar. I'm just chalking it up to my own fevered imagination.
:)
Beng is like a short downward block, with forearm about parallel to the ground, with a close-up vertical fist punch with the other hand. There's a little more to it than that (like the rest of your body), but that should give you the basic idea.
apoweyn
Sorry maybe i shoulda have explained better :D
Pi and Beng are 2 of the 5 elements (or fists if you will) used in Xingyi. You can think of them as 5 diferent types of forces to be used, each one causing a diferent effect on your oponent.
So Pi is the splitting, cutting force while Beng is the crushing, smashing force.
In truth they are not really "hand techinques" cos this forces can be expressed with various parts of the body, elbows, knees, etc.
But if you want the classical demonstration of these explained in a very simple way, then Pi is shown mostly as a palm strike while Beng is a vertical punch.
http://emptyflower.com/xingyiquan/cr...en/beng01.html
http://emptyflower.com/xingyiquan/sp...bengforce.html
http://emptyflower.com/xingyiquan/cr.../ken/pi01.html
http://emptyflower.com/xingyiquan/sp...g/piforce.html
At the first pic here you can see Marcello Teixeira, my teacher's teacher doing Pi with the closed fist shape, wich exemplifies that Pi is not really a palm technique.
http://www.xingyitchuen.com.br/english/cincoele.html
BTW, dont worry if your avatar cant be explained, cos my nickname cant be explained either.
Kind of what I was saying about bagua too. Say Xebsball, I noticed that Bruno Lima Roch made his first post on the internal board today. Is he a class mate or your teacher?
count, Bruno is my teacher.
I know I could see at Empty flower, and I'm just guessing based on bagua. Is Beng wood and Pi water? Just curious.
Didn't the 'monkey fists' incident also get you banned from the Washington Zoo?Quote:
p.s. by some odd coincidence, 'monkey fists' was my nickname in high school.
I thought about the question and realized I kick more than I thought. But... Left jab, Left jab, left sword hand to the left side of their neck or head.
yeah Beng is wood, Pi is metal though.
Zhuan is water, Pao is fire and Heng is earth.
Generally -simultaneous blocks and strikes.
Specific favorites.
Crane Hook attackers hand down and Crane's Neck (wrist) strike to the eye-orbit (same hand).
Double punch attack, opponent will normally block one hand but not both.
I always grab an opponents wrist if the opportunity arises.
I like trapping a lot, if someone throws a punch I grab their wrist and punch with the other hand while pulling them into me thought I also punch with the same hand, or do a takedown, etc.
I also like blocking down with my elbow and coming up with a punch with the same same and simply deflecting the hand and coming striahgt inot the throat with a palm strike.
the techs i practice/use the most would be...
yin chops: for clearing away hands or to strike the neck
hammerfists: downward and upward, for smashing through/away defenses or smashing down on shoulders/head/face/whatever
a chop technique that comes straight up the centerline and whips the edge of the hand outwards, dunno the name for this one
elbow
and the various strikes associated with throws; mostly palm, elbow and inside/outer forearms.
PLCrane,
I think I get the idea. Thanks for the explanation. :)
Stuart B.
Xebsball,
No worries. That was an excellent explanation. I appreciate it.
Stuart B.
p.s. Yeah, I've puzzled more than a few people with my screen name too. :)
Rogue,
Thanks pal. I've just sprayed toast bits all over my desk. LOL
The comment about kicking more than you realized is part of what prompted this question in the first place. I asked, months ago, how people use their kicking and it struck me that I hadn't asked about the hands.
It occured to me that while I use hands a hell of a lot more than I used to, I'm still pretty heavy on the kicking myself.
Stuart B.
That's interesting. Beng reminds me of our dragon or Ch'en trigram energy. That IS wood element. But Pi reminds me more of snake or Kan trigram which is water element. Maybe a bit like pheonix which is wood element also. In bagua, like hsing-i the hand doesn't matter much. Could be open or closed. But the energy of a dragon strike is out and rising. Could you describe a bit about Zhaung, Pao and Heng?