Sure, dont we all complain about Bill Gate on how ego centric is him ? hahahaha,
Human ignorance.
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You must first presume yourself to be an expert yourself Hendrik, but all you do is come across like an egotist!
You don't like to argue because you cannot express yourself well enough to do so, so instead you use insults and belittling comments while pretending to respect all people!
No one is more clueless than you Hendrik. I am trying to figure out whether you are uneducated or just stupid!
Part of your foolishness is your narcissistic belief that no one understands any of this, but you!
It is not your place to decide for others whether they should take a philosophical path or your idea of a System Thinking path!
Have you no understanding of "expedient means"! Clearly you do not since all you want to do is impose your artificial construct of the path onto everyone else!
I still can't decide if you are uneducated or just stupid! You do not understand philosophical ideas at all. Your System Thinking IS a philosophical construct!
Not to mention there was no philosophical discussion taking place here. It is called Dharma play, are you ignorant of Dharma play as well?
We understand the path is clear, what we disagree with is your imposing your own misunderstanding of the path on to others!
Well Duh!! Thank you for stating the obvious!
The problem here is you cannot see that your own ego-centrism has confused your understanding. It is clear to everyone but you!
It is clear to everyone but you that your practice is incomplete!
There is no practice, there is no result, there is no Dharma, there is no Buddha! You are bound by your own fantasy!
So part of your fantasy is to save the world?
People are suffering because they are trapped in confusion and ignorance. That is the way the system is set up from the start. There is nothing wrong with it the way it is!
It is irrelevant whether it takes 2 years, 20 years, or 20 eons, time is a form that is inherently an illusion so all these time periods are equal in length, in that none of them truly exist!
All Dharmas are equal, ignorant beings are the same as Buddha's and inherently both are artificial constructs of confused minds!
Then why do you insist that everyone else is confused, yet you cannot recognize your own confusion?
Insistence on prayer binds one to an artificial construct, a fantasy of the mind! Prayer is an artificial construct of a mind bound by confusion! But if it makes you feel better go ahead, it can"t hurt other than reinforcing the binding of the mind to confusion! Since 2 years, 20 years and 20 eons are all equal inherently it does not matter. Everyone has their own "expedient means" which they will eventually realize was created by their own confusion of mind!
LOL, bullsh*t! you are so full of bullsh*t it is coming out of your ears - you are such a dolt, it is laughable! you cloak yourself in some sort of altruistic "I am just here to help" guise, but look at your first three posts on this thread:
I'm sorry - please explain what ANY of these statements, all clearly intended to correct what you believe to misguided perspectives of the posters in question, please explain what ANY of them have to do specifically with helping people with their health via the practice of qigong?
unbelievable! that is EXACTLY what your initial three posts on this thread do! you present yourself as an "expert" who comes on to argue someone else's belief system (a.k.a. philosophy; and you can nit pick and split hairs and try to propose how system thinking is different from a philosophy all you want, but sorry to say, it's essentially the same thing)
nope, sorry, no one here is buying it, because it's not about helping others, it's about Hendrik being right, being the expert, and demonstrating everyone else's lack of proper perspective - AND YET NEVER BEING ASKED TO DO SO - don't you get it?!? you think you are being so beneficent, but the reality is that no one has asked you to come here and "teach"; but you just can't seem to help yourself, LOL - you don't come here to discuss, you come to preach! and what's more you typically do so in such a cryptic not to mention grammatically obtuse manner that even when you have something of benefit to share, it gets lost in the process;
you might want to take a moment and reflect on the way in which people like Krisnamurti, Chogyam Trungpa, Ticht Naht Han and my teacher Sat Hon manage to convey their message to thousands of people from disparate cultures, communicating the same message you are trying to convey, and yet do not engender the same sort of response that you consistently get from pretty much everyone on here; at what point are you going to take a step back and realize that when you consistently receive a certain type of response it might actually have something to do with you, not everyone else?
regardless of what your intentions may be, you come across as a know-it-all who presumes to instruct and does so in a rather condescending way; and you still don't get it that no one is here to receive instruction or to give it, but to simply engage in discourse in an open-ended manner - meaning that we come with our particular perspectives, yet without any particular attachment to them, "testing" them out against other ones, having some fun in the process; you, OTOH, jump in every time essentially indicating how these perspectives we hold are incorrect; and often the only rationale you give is because you say so! which basically makes you not much fun to play with at all, really;
you may want to consider finding an alternate venue in which to help others
As your comments reflect your experience too then huh?
Is this the manner in which you present your respect for all people?
I thought you didn't come here to argue, but to bless all mankind with your beneficence?
Once again instead of condescending to others, how about demonstrating your own "evidence of experience"?
AND once again, instead of making an asinine statement that says nothing at all about what I have posted, please demonstrate where I am in error so that I may benefit from your "respectful" comments!
Classical case of No mind, no path, no IS! Dead as a ROCK or Dry Wood by Wo Lun.
One Bhikshu was reciting Dhyana Master Wo Lun verse:
Wo Lun has the talent
To stop the hundred thoughts:
Facing situations his mind won’t move;
Bodhi grows day by day.
When the Master Hui Neng heard it he said, “This verse no understanding of the mind-ground, and to cultivate
according to it will increase one’s bondage. Then spoke this verse:
Hui Neng has no talent
To stop the hundred thoughts.
Facing situations his mind often moves;
How can Bodhi grow? ---------------six patriach sutra
The full article is online - follow the link
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Impact of Medical Qigong on quality of life, fatigue, mood and inflammation in cancer patients: a randomized controlled trial
B. Oh1,2,3,*, P. Butow2, B. Mullan2, S. Clarke1,3, P. Beale1,3, N. Pavlakis1,4, E. Kothe5, L. Lam6 and D. Rosenthal7
1 Department of Medicine, Concord Repatriation General Hospital, University of Sydney, Concord
2 Center for Medical Psychology and Evidence-based Decision-making, School of Psychology, University of Sydney
3 Sydney Cancer Center, Concord Repatriation General Hospital
4 Department of Medical Oncology, Royal North Shore Hospital
5 School of Psychology, University of Sydney
6 School of Medical Sydney, Notre Dame University, NSW, Australia
7 Dana-Faber Cancer Institute, Harvard Medical School, Boston, MA, USA
* Correspondence to: Dr B. Oh, Department of Medicine, Concord Repatriation General Hospital, University of Sydney, Concord, New South Wales 2139, Australia. Tel: +61-2-90-36-78-26; Fax: +61-2-93-51-54-88; E-mail: bsoh@med.usyd.edu.au
Background: Substantial numbers of cancer patients use complementary medicine therapies, even without a supportive evidence base. This study aimed to evaluate in a randomized controlled trial, the use of Medical Qigong (MQ) compared with usual care to improve the quality of life (QOL) of cancer patients.
Patients and methods: One hundred and sixty-two patients with a range of cancers were recruited. QOL and fatigue were measured by Functional Assessment of Cancer Therapy—General and Functional Assessment of Cancer Therapy—Fatigue, respectively, and mood status by Profile of Mood State. The inflammatory marker serum C-reactive protein (CRP) was monitored serially.
Results: Regression analysis indicated that the MQ group significantly improved overall QOL (t144 = –5.761, P < 0.001), fatigue (t153 = –5.621, P < 0.001), mood disturbance (t122 =2.346, P = 0.021) and inflammation (CRP) (t99 = 2.042, P < 0.044) compared with usual care after controlling for baseline variables.
Conclusions: This study indicates that MQ can improve cancer patients’ overall QOL and mood status and reduce specific side-effects of treatment. It may also produce physical benefits in the long term through reduced inflammation.
cancer, fatigue, inflammation, mood, quality of life
doesn't seem to have compared the MQ group to a control group doing exercise of a non-MQ qigong nature...so all we can really say is that when you have cancer doing MQ is better than doing nothing...and since the MQ was being assessed in terms of its impact on mood and an inflammatory marker, we can't even say anything about its impact on cancer per se, we just see the types of changes that have been well-documented in people who engage in pretty much any sort of exercise program, qigong or otherwise;
Hmmm...someone should do a study on Dr. Nan Lu
http://breastcancer.com/self-care/qigong/ :confused:
More results coming?
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Pain study targets fibromyalgia
RICHARD WOODBURY FOR METRO HALIFAX
November 09, 2009 11:13 p.m.
A study at Dalhousie University is looking at the effect practising a traditional Chinese meditative practice has on fibromyalgia sufferers.
“Our patients are learning how to do qigong and then we’re asking them to practice qigong for 45 minutes to 60 minutes a day,” says Dr. Mary Lynch, the director of research at the Pain Management Clinic at Dalhousie. “And we’re going to measure their pain and how they manage with their fibromyalgia.”
Qigong (pronounced chi-gong) involves using body movements and controlled breathing techniques.
“(Fibromyalgia) causes a tremendous amount of suffering and there are really no good treatments for fibromyalgia right now,” says Lynch.
“We’re always looking for new treatments that patients can do themselves that are not harmful,” she says.
The pilot trial at Dalhousie was in 2007 and the results have since been published. Twelve of the 25 patients who continued practising qigong for six months after the trial had positive results.
“Their pain almost came down, their fibromyalgia impact questionnaire measures improved, and their physical health related quality of life improved,” says Lynch.
Wanting to study it in more detail, the clinic has one trial on now and is looking to recruit another 100 people for a trial in the spring.
Another pain study at the university is looking at the impact art and creative pursuits have on chronic pain. Lynch hopes to have the results published by late summer 2010.
“The data has not been analyzed,” says Lynch, “but I can tell you that my clinical impression, just from what my patients who are artists tell me, is that art and pain can interact in two ways.”
The big hospital near me has a huge new cancer ward. They now have qigong classes for their patients that want it.
From what I gather from talking to people, it is a case of doing something is better than doing nothing. Taking your mind off your troubles and doing something physical but not stressful or strenuous seems to help some patients get better.
I guess meditation would do the same thing, but moving qigongs allow one to feel like they are "doing something" to help themselves.
If it works, it works. It was a means to open the door and start self healing, a trigger for the body.
Excellent point about herbal supplements. It reminds me of the issues of massage and cancer.
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Mix but don't mismatch: cancer treatments
* Helen Francombe
* From: The Australian
* December 11, 2009 12:00AM
STEPHEN Clarke confesses to being sceptical at the outset of a scientific trial of qigong, a Chinese mind-body practice involving gentle movements, meditation and breathing exercises.
But by the trial's end he couldn't deny there was something real, and good, happening to the cancer patients in the qigong classes led by Byeongsong Oh.
Oh, a traditional Chinese medicine practitioner, is lead author of the study, published in the journal Annals of Oncology.
"Patients kept telling us `I really feel better' and they had less fatigue and better mood," says professor Clarke, paper co-author and oncologist at the Sydney Cancer Centre and head of the Concord Hospital clinical school.
But even more surprising were the reductions in patients' blood levels of CRP, or C-reactive protein, compared with the patients who did not do qigong. The protein is a measure of inflammation in the body, which can be related to cancer activity.
The patients doing qigong also had better cognitive function, less pain and less nausea and vomiting after chemotherapy, Oh says.
"They were really quite exciting results," says Clarke, who was so impressed that qigong classes are now offered to patients at the Sydney Cancer Centre. Oh will also run classes at Sydney Adventist Hospital, Concord Hospital and Royal North Shore Hospital in the new year.
In the traditional Chinese medicine model, qigong is described as increasing the flow of energy throughout the body. But in Western medicine the effect could be explained in terms of the "relaxation response", where reducing emotional and physical tension leads to better immune function, Clarke says.
While this trial is a story of harmonious Western medicine and complementary therapy, that's not always the case. As Clarke notes, almost every second patient coming in for chemotherapy is taking some kind of complementary medicine or supplement that could interfere with treatment by making it less effective or more toxic. The problem is that often their doctors don't know.
"Complementary medicine is a $2 billion industry in Australia, so there are a lot of people using it, but a fair percentage of those are not telling their doctors," says Clarke, who spoke about complementary medicines at the Clinical Oncological Society of Australia's recent conference on the Queensland Gold Coast.
Many patients feel uncomfortable talking about their complementary medicines with their doctors because they sense a dismissive attitude and this can lead to a dangerous breakdown in communication, he says. "Cancer clinicians need to take their patients' interest in alternative therapies seriously, while patients need to understand that mixing conventional and unconventional therapies can reduce the efficacy of prescription medicines and increase overall drug toxicity."
For example, some herbal supplements can change the way patients' bodies absorb or excrete their chemotherapy drugs. If excretion is slowed down, they could get much more toxicity from the drug, and if excretion is sped up, the drug could be out of their system too fast to do its job properly.
Geeta Sandhu is a cancer pharmacist and safe medicines specialist at Brisbane's Princess Alexandra Hospital, where all patients attend an information session before they have chemotherapy. Patients are asked to bring in absolutely everything they are taking, including vitamins, supplements and herbs, to head off any potential interactions.
This has proved worthwhile. A one-month survey of cancer patients by Sandhu and her colleagues Trang Le and Janet Weir showed more than half take some kind of complementary medicine, and 84 per cent of these have the potential to cause problems with their cancer treatment. Sandhu says: "When we find patients are taking something with the potential for interaction, we talk it over with them and they usually decide to stop taking the supplement once they have the information."
Antioxidants are a prime example of a popular but problematic supplement, as they can cancel some of the effect of chemotherapy,Sandhu explains. "Chemotherapy drugs work by free radical oxygenation to kill cancer cells and antioxidant supplements mop up these free radicals that chemotherapy tries to create, so they are potentially reducing the efficacy of treatment."
In some cases patients unwittingly take supplements that could stimulate their cancer. For instance, some women with breast cancer take herbal supplements with oestrogen-like effects to help with symptoms of early menopause. Sandhu warns that's dangerous for those who have the kind of breast cancer that's sensitive to oestrogen as the supplement could stimulate their cancer to grow.
Black cohosh, a component of some herbal remedies for menopause symptoms, is one such oestrogenic supplement Sandhu watches out for with women who have breast cancer. She says black cohosh can also cause serious liver problems in some people. "But black cohosh may not be as problematic for women who don't have an oestrogen-sensitive tumour and don't have any risk factors for liver problems, so we have to look at it on a case-by-case basis."
Other supplements that can cause toxicity include apricot kernel extracts (laetrile/amygdalin), which contain small amounts of cyanide and in significant doses could lead to cyanide poisoning.
While there's reasonable evidence about the safety and efficacy of complementary medicines, more is definitely needed, Sandhu says. "The level of evidence is not as solid as we would like; there aren't the big trials we get with drug companies."
"We need more information" is the message COSA gets from its members, says Kathy Ansell, a COSA project co-ordinator who helps facilitate the complementary therapies interest group. "They want their patients to get the best treatment and are keen to see the evidence about what works and what doesn't. It also upsets them to see patients wasting money on things that don't work and, in some cases, using therapies that can be harmful," she says.
Ansell, a former oncology nurse, is working on a website with reliable information about complementary medicines for COSA members, who include oncologists, pharmacists and nurses.
And as reported in Weekend Health last week, University of Sydney pharmacology professors Basil Roufogalis and Andrew McLachlan have teamed up with medical information provider Unity Health to launch an internet database that allows subscribers to search for drug and herb interactions.
Still, for many complementary therapies, the trials simply have not been done, Clarke says.
He argues rigorous trials of complementary therapies offer two benefits: reliable information on efficacy and safety, and more willingness from patients to tell doctors about their complementary therapies. "When patients see that doctors are taking complementary therapies seriously by studying them, they feel they are less likely to get a negative reaction about their own complementary therapies," he says, adding that it's likely that trials of complementary therapies would identify some that are truly effective.
"Many of our conventional cancer drugs are derived from herbs or are based on old remedies, so it is only logical that some other herbal supplements may be of real value," he says.
Cancer Council Australia chief executive Ian Olver would also like to see many more complementary therapies subjected to scientific trials. "We want patients to know about interactions between complementary therapies and medical treatment, and also what they can realistically expect from a therapy because there are some pretty extravagant claims made for some of them."
Apart from potential physical harm, patients can also be hurt in the hip pocket, Olver says, as many complementary therapies aren't cheap.
Self-empowerment is one of the reasons many people with cancer use complementary therapies, but it also has to do with pursuing every last possibility. "We are absolutely not critical of patients exploring these, but we want to make sure they have information about what is useful and what is potentially harmful. Just because it is natural doesn't mean it is safe."
Cancer Council NSW's booklet can be obtained at www.cancercouncil.com.au or by calling 13 11 20.
As always, I'm curious to the specific form of qigong, but it's a promising study.
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Medical Qigong May Improve Quality of Life of Cancer Patients
Researchers from Australia have reported that medical Qigong (MQ) can improve quality of life (QoL) of cancer patients compared with standard care. The details of this study were published in the March 2010 issue of Annals of Oncology.[1]
Medical Qigong is an ancient Chinese medical practice that uses physical activity and meditation “to harmonize the body, mind and spirit.” Qi in Chinese means breath, and gong means work. Qigong is described as “working with ones life force.” Qigong is generally practiced in groups guided by a leader.
The current study included 162 patients with a variety of cancers who were randomly allocated to usual care or to participate in MQ.
Patients in the MQ group received a two 90-minute supervised MQ sessions per week for 10 weeks. MQ sessions were “modified from traditional Quigong practice by the instructor to specifically target the needs of cancer patients to control emotions and stress as well as to improve physical function.” Session are described as follows: “Each session consisted of 15-min discussion of health issues, 30-min gentle stretching and body movement in standing postures to stimulate the body along energy channels, 15-min movements in seated posture, and 30-min meditation including breathing exercises…”
Twenty-five patients in the MQ group and 29 in the control group dropped out of the study. Fifty-four remained in each group for analysis. These authors reported that patients in the MQ group had significant improvement in overall QoL measurements, fatigue, mood disturbance, and inflammation compared with usual care. They concluded: “This study indicates that MQ can improve cancer patients’ overall QOL and mood status and reduce specific side-effects of treatment. It may also produce physical benefits in the long term through reduced inflammation.”
Comments: This study is provocative and indicates that MQ could be of benefit to cancer patients. This program was led by an expert in Chinese medicine; such leadership may be necessary for good results. However, there are several Web sites devoted to Qigong that can be accessed through a Google search for “medical Qigong.” CDs are available to describe the technique.
Reference:
[1] Oh B, Butow P, Mullan B, et al. Impact of medical Quigong on quality of life, fatigue, mood and inflammation in cancer patients: a randomized controlled trial. Annals of Oncology. 2010;21:608-614.
In my opinion
Since the world is a causal system running with the law of cause and effect.
Qigong practice if it is the proper type will certainly deliver the result, there is no question on it.
One of the biggest issue on Qigong is most have never really cultivate it. IE just mimic the taiji chuan posture in the morning or standing post or talking Zen or Talking Dao doesnt do it.
However, There are so much ego in the western world
IE in this forum that everyone wants to be the "Master" or even Grand Master and preaching and arguing with tons of ridiculous ideas which is a totally nonsense which any real cultivator will spot out.
After Decades of study with different sifus, my bottom line is if one cant enter into the silence and evoke the Zhen Qi. Forget about it. disregards who one claim he is or his sifu is.....name droping or smart talking. They dont have it. and the best those stuff can work is work as a light excersice or entertainment talk show.
Sure, saying this is open a can and open for attack by some self proclaim Gurus in this forum. I careless because these people in one way they think they know it all, but even if they have a small sickness, they will certainly go to western medicine and totally drop the Qigong or Zen they makes so much claim that they are the master; instead of capable of using the Zhen Qi and Silence to heal the issue.
Let's face it. Do one really has it or not? as basic as Zhen Qi and as basic as enter into the Silence. Without these, the rest is garbage theory and fantasy.
Without the Zhen Qi and silence, one couldnt even heal a common cold, not to mention other sickness.
There is a standard in Qigong training, in generally for 100 days or longer one must enter into the silence and build up the Zhen Qi. Thus, no sex is a must for the sick in these 100 days or more (untill the Zhen Qi accumulate and later sex needs to be limited.)
Without attaining the basic how can one get the benifit? simply cant because it is a causal world where one needs to generate enough energy to change the couse of a certain manifestation. talking big surely wont get one those energy needed. not to mention even with the energy needed still there are different condition needs to be met to solve the manifestation....etc. IE if the mind subsconciously hold on it then the body will proceed as the mind command, thus, one needs to enter into silence to drop that subsconcious thought/program to take the root cause out. Yes, it can be done however human in general cant do these because there are only a few who have the condition and willing to do so.
IMHO,
Thus, before turn oneself to any scientific research or healing, first ask oneself what kung fu attainment one has ? doesnt one has the basic such as enter into silence, and further into growing of Zhen Qi, and further into balancing the internal organs.......etc without having those attainment, one knows the outcomes because it is a causal world. Do one willing to drop sex, drop smoking, drop getting angry...sleeping before 11PM.for at least 100 days? if not then there will be not much benifit.
With the Zhen Qi and silence capability, it certainly aid the healing even if one decide to combine the western medicine for the healing. Every aid is a good aid.
Finally, Qigong is not totally magic either IE it cannot replace food no matter how much one practice it.
And also, if one doesnt want to be heal or suspecious one can heal, one cant be heal no matter what Qigong one practice.
re: qigong for fibromyalgia (FM);
in my personal, subjective clinical experience, I completely agree that qigong is an ideal practice for FM, for a number of reasons: first and foremost, qigong practice (for health) is about what I like to call "diffusion"; what this means is that, typically, when we move, we do so in fits and starts - meaning that, if you examine the way people in general use their muscular systems and the way the tension is distributed throughout their connective tissue (CT) systems, there is a lack of continuity; this can manifest as hypertonicity in a given muscle, as fibrosis in an area of CT and, in the case of FM, mutiple areas of myofascial tripper points (MFTP); I won't go into the definition of a MFTP, but it's essentially a "dry" area that is locally tender and also refers pain along a given distribution; with FM, pt's are loaded with active MFTPs, and this is a major component of their dysfunction;
so, with qigong practice, the idea is to manage the tension in the system "internally"; this is a tricky, qualitative experiential process, but the idea is to teach people to "float" in / on their CT structure - it's almost like "activating" the fluid in the tissues as a way of creating a diffusion between cells - (of course, this is rather metaphorical language mixed in with standard biology terms, but it's a useful way to encompass the idea);
for many patients, a lot of this has to do with generalized systemic congestion / lymphatic return: FM pt's are often very sluggish in their constitutions, somewhat "hypo active" (not always - others can be "hyper" types, the engine's burning too hot, but that's less common - and harder to work with, IMPE); qigong is very effective in regards to encouraging lymphatic return and decreasing generalized chronic inflammation;
incidentally, there is no need to talk about esoteric terms such as "zhen qi" and it is certainly not necessary to be celibate, in order to derive significant benefit from qigong practice: I have worked with numerous patients who have done very well without any of that; what is important is one's ability to "listen" to their body / movements in a way that they typically are not used to doing, and to feel what it's like to be "filled up" during practice; what I do believe though, is that if the teacher has not experienced this themselves, then there is really no possibility of engendering it in others; and without this quality, then qigong is really no different than most other range of motion exercises, which can still have benefit, but does not engage the organism in the same way (also, I would not say qigong is exclusive in getting this effect - other practices have that potential as well, such as yoga, which in some ways blows a lot of qigong practice out of the water in terms of efficacy); so again, there is something qualitative that I believe qigong potentiates that is "unique", but it's not as mysterious and difficult to achieve as many people seem to like to think it is;
LOL!!! Ri-i-i-i-i-i-i-ght!!!!! Asians are the most humble people in the world Hendrik! Especially the Chinese, home of the center of the world!!!
Why do you never include yourself in your rants against the egos of others Henrik? Who arrogantly “argues with tons of ridiculous ideas” more than you? Who thinks or presents himself as a “Master” or even Grand Master” more than you? You comment upon the "nonsense" of others, but never recognize your own! You comment upon the ego of others, but never recognize your own! You comment upon the robotic spinning mind rainbow dream fantasies of others, but never recognize your own!
There is nothing wrong with “light exercise or entertainment talk” Henrik! It is your own ego attachments to how you “think” things should be that confuses your understanding. All “your decades of study with different sifus” has done is increase your own ego and diminished your understanding. Your ideas are fix and demonstrate little flexibility or depth of understanding.
Self proclaimed “Gurus” like yourself? A person who cannot even communicate a thought independent of what he “thinks” he has learned from his “decades of study with different sifus”! One of the characteristics of maturity and true insight Hendrik is independence of thought. I understand it may be difficult coming from a Chinese culture where getting along and conforming is encouraged, however even the greatest Chinese thinkers were independent thinkers, as they are in every other culture in the history of man!
You will never be as clever or smart or insightful as you pretend you are until you are able to apply your criticisms of others to yourself and until you are able to think independently of your “Master”!
Come On Henrik, do you take ignorance pills???? If this was true then we would all have colds, even YOU, and they would never go away! The body heals itself naturally and has done so from the start without your precious “Silence” and “Zhen Qi”!
And you have the arrogance to criticize others for pretending they are “Masters” when it is you who display your ignorance with nearly every post!
Once again,
Come On Henrik, do you take ignorance pills???? If this was true then no one would EVER get well! The body heals itself naturally and has done so from the start without your precious “Silence” and “Zhen Qi”!
You clearly have NO medical training and have no business making these FOOLISH, STUPID, IDIOTIC, IGNORANT, claims!
And you have the arrogance to criticize others for pretending they are “Masters” when it is you who display your ignorance with nearly every post!
And your sexual abstinence comment has been proven to be false in numerous scientific studies. In fact, sex has been shown to stimulate the immune system!
Do you know what that means? It means it will HELP the body heal!
Who is it that has dream fantasies of grandeur here? Look in the mirror to find out!
Which is probably why people go to doctors, receive therapies and take antibiotics! Because they work better than your “dream fantasy” method!
Before one follows your advice one should first exhaust all scientifically proven methods and turn to your “magical” means as a last resort!
You see Hendrik, the scientific method has its basis in the causal word, THAT is why it is called “The Scientific Method” as opposed to magic!
Before one drops “sex, smoking, getting angry and sleep before 11PM for at least 100 days” they should drop their stupidity and ignorance and go see a Doctor!
Almost every post you make has at least one nugget of meaningful information! ALMOST!!! So don’t let your already outsized EGO get any bigger just because you accidently say something meaningful on occasion!
But one can with modern medicine!
Based on this above, a solid evidence.
Where is your Zen, Dao, Qi..ect which you keep posting like a guru?
You are not a cultivator on Qi, Dao, and meditation;
keep playing guru on the subject you are clueless, word it such that you seems like a guru,
that is fine with me.
You mean like your post that you told me I don't know Sh!t before you edited it? That kind of compassion?
And what about your own personal attacks Hendrik? I wouldn't have a problem with the ideas you post if you weren't so condescending to everyone else. You ARE a tool, and an A$$ Hole, and immature, and ignorant, and a know-it-all and everything else you think everyone else is!
You criticize everyone else without recognizing your own foolishness and ignorance!
dude, are you like, Dr. Doom, or something? everytime you post, you throw in this diabolical laughter thing; let me ask you - does it come out in some sort of high-pitched whine because of your testicles having shrivled away to nothing from your lifetime of celibacy?
so what your saying is that you actually are aware of your own aszhattery, and anticipate that people will have a negative response to you? ok, well, I guess that makes sense...:confused::confused::confused:
BTW, in all seriousness, are you really such a moron that you don't realize that you constantly launch personal attacks on people? the difference is that whereas you think that you are making some sort of compassionate comments, I am just delighting in making sport of you because ur a schmuk!
hey, dude, I don't know what got rewired in your brain during your 100 days of celibacy (thank goodness I came out of mine still interested in women!), but just because I "raise your compassionate" (:eek::eek::eek:), doesn't mean that you can expect anything from me!
i think hendrik has lost it...
all hail! Master beater, lord of the sword, god of the rod, thane of the membrane!
Here's the article for purchase including abstract and authorsQuote:
Research finds Qigong and Tai Chi offer multiple health benefits
By Health News Team • Jul 7th, 2010
Research supports the use of tai chi as a beneficial alternative medical practice A new review has found the practices of Qigong and Tai Chi are beneficial for the heart, immune system and overall quality of life.
The review, appearing in the American Journal of Health Promotion, included 77 randomized controlled trials on both interventions published in peer-reviewed journals between 1993 and 2007. There was a total of 6,410 participants in the studies.
The authors say they found quite consistent evidence of several benefits from this particular category of exercise, including better bone health, cardio-respiratory fitness, physical function, balance, quality of life, fall prevention and psychological benefits.
"We see this as moving the understanding of the potential of Qigong and Tai Chi forward, with an emphasis on combining the evidence across these practices," said co-author Linda Larkey, Ph.D.
Shin Lin, a professor at the Center for Integrative Medicine at the University of California, Irvine explained that Qigong is a very general term to describe exercises that enhance flow of energy or balance.
Tai Chi, on the other hand, is a much more specific exercise program that focuses on a series of 24 to 108 movements to achieve a state of relaxation of both body and mind.
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Title: A Comprehensive Review of Health Benefits of Qigong and Tai Chi
Author(s): Roger Jahnke, Linda Larkey, Carol Rogers, Jennifer Etnier, Fang Lin
Publication: American Journal of Health Promotion, July/August 2010, V24, I6, e1-25
Keyword(s): Tai Chi, Taiji, Meditation, Qigong
This review examined the evidence for achieving outcomes from randomized controlled trials (RCTs) of Qigong and Tai Chi. RCTs reporting on the results of Qigong or Tai Chi interventions and published in peer-reviewed journals from 1993 to 2007 were identified. Seventy-seven articles met the inclusion criteria. The nine outcome category groupings that emerged were: bone density (n = 4), cardiopulmonary effects (n = 19), physical function (n = 16), falls and related risk factors (n = 23), quality of life (n = 17), self-efficacy (n = 8), patient-reported outcomes (n = 13), psychological symptoms (n = 27), and immune function (n = 6). Research has demonstrated consistent, significant results for a number of health benefits in RCTs, evidencing progress toward recognizing the similarity and equivalence of Qigong and Tai C