Agree with you 100% there. I can't remember how many times that I tried to hide away from him in CMA tournaments. He always asked me, "Are you going to response to that article?"
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My sifu just posted that his friend dave cater said beckett publications dropped them as of yesterday!!
I still love the old '70s and and early to mid 80s issues of IKF. I have a large collection of them and they have some truly excellent articles...
As someone who has been in both magazines, and also who knew Cater in a relative sense (I golfed with him once at a Jeff Bolt event) - it is sort of sad if it is going under....
Which dave cater is the editor in chief!!! By the way I left that out, I guess its leggit it really is done!!
another sad day for kung fu people...
its has not stuck to its roots and other mags have overtaken its position.
It still offered some good articles, and more focus on kung fu than blck belt,!!!!! But hands down KUNG FU MAGAZINE is the best and most leggit!!
I remember that the first two issues featured Ed Parker (cover), Bucksam Kong and Lam Kwong Wing.
I've subscribed to KungFu Magazine for almost 2 years now. Ready to renew.
I just bought a subscription to Inside Kung Fu because I couldn't find them at the local store anymore.
How much you want to bet I just lost that money?
I'll bet you the cost of a subscription to IKF magazine that you have lost that money. :D
That's why I found it odd. This announcement is made but if you look at the site you can still purchase subs.
thoughtless and can be perceived as not only negligent, but sleazy.
But then, we are talking about Cater's rag here which was utter shyte compared to how it used to be and thankfully these good folks here picked it up and ran with the tcma magazine that IKF hadn't been providing for years. [/rant]
The link still goes to Beckett. So I assume Beckett still gets the money, not IKF magazine.
So who is sleazier, Beckett, or the people who run IKF magazine?
Yeah, since I lost my subscription money... 'bet' was probably not the best word to use.
Oh well, I should have just been satisfied with my bi-monthly Kung Fu Magazine. That'll teach me.
IKF is f@cking horrible.
How many times did they put that fool Taboo from Black Eyed Peas on the cover?
Good riddance.
The magazine is a rag. It's had good info previously but in the past number of years... I got more quality info from UK tabloids.
Have mixed feelings, I've been in both magazines, and I knew Cater a bit (played golf with him and Tai Chi teacher Henry Lok) - but the magazine appealed to the lowest and catered to BS and controversy
Like youknowwho said, Cater would try to drag you into bs, I know he published articles and letters just to annoy established teachers, who he wanted to get a reaction out of
I had stopped buying IKF some time ago. I remember when it was a really good publication (1970s to mid-1980s). If I remember correctly, IKF began around 1974 and ran until '77 or '78, suspended publication for a year or so, then returned in 1979.
I also have mixed feelings about this. If it was like the "old days," I would be sad about it. But as it is, maybe it's better off put to sleep.
About ten years ago, I wrote and sent in an article for IKF's news section when my Mantis teacher in Taiwan passed away, along with a photo of him. Dave Cater called me and confirmed they'd be publishing it. I had included a self-addressed stamped envelope with the article and asked him to send the photo back when he was done with it. He said he would. They published the article w/the photo, but I never got that photo back.
I also remember back in the day walking about 2 miles (each way) in the late '70s/early-mid '80 to buy IKF each month. I used to look forward to it. In recent years, I've been hard-pressed to even pick it up to browse it whenever I see it on the newsstand/bookstore. I still buy Kung Fu Magazine, though.
Jimbo,
You should still try to get that photo back.
mickey
good articles
from good writers to good readers
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I hope that they compile all issues and published in a dvd format or PDF files
searchable
we have come a long way from paper printing to digital file on a disk
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or set up an online library
membership to search articles on line etc
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24.95 On the 22nd of December. Bad timing!
Sad to hear this.
The recession is hurting everyone. Will 2011 be better ? Let's hope K/F magazine and BB continue on, they both have a better chance with everyone's support.
Yeah no joke, I should have just doubled up on my kfm subscription!!! Something else that kinda eeved me a bit was how long it took to get my ikf first issue ( bout 8 weeks) and my t- shirt and first issue with kfm in a matter of about a week!!! Better magazine and customer service hands down goes to kfm"!!"
I'm quite shocked but can understand how they're losing the 'roots' battle out there in the big wide world. I have bought most magazines since I was a kid and saw IKF become 'confused'. When you see rope tug of war and arm bars in the first 5 pages you know something just aint right.
Does this mean that the final edition is 'Jay Chou becomes Kato' coz that's just strange. Wasn't Bruce on the cover of the first issue?
I appreciate all the support you all have given for Kung Fu Tai Chi (and hope you're all subscribed ;) ).
I'm actually just dropping in now because I had jury duty this morning. I've been busy trying to make this deadline and haven't really had the opportunity to process this fully yet. I am saddened to see a pioneering institution like IKF conclude. I wrote for IKF back when I was freelance, even did a cover story for them. And as a publisher myself, it's another magazine for the Print publishing death watch. At the same time, I'm very curious to see the impact on our magazine, as obviously, it's my job here. So my feelings are very mixed. I'm sure I'll have some deeper reflections upon this topic later, but right now, I'm headed out to a screener of Green Hornet now.
Many years ago, I subscribed a CMA magazine 新武俠(Xin Wu Xia) from Hong Kong. In that magazine, there was a section called "三招了(San Zhao Liao) - 3 moves combo". In each issue, there would be 4 different styles to demonstrate their 3 moves combo. excellent information but I can't see that kind of material in any other magazines.
IMO, the reason that people subscribe a magazine is to obtain useful combat information, and not just want to know how great a certain CMA master was, or what movie a certain star is going to make.
Good words Gene,
When ISKF quit the letter section , readers could not give their opinions of the content they were reading, that's not good.
They did some great work, and, it is sad in many ways to see anyone in their position go out of business.
Lets all support Tiger/Claw and their fine work.
Best to U
Ron
If I recall correctly, the first issue had David Carradine on the front cover. Afterall it was the heyday of the "Kung Fu" series.
Youknowwho said:
"Many years ago, I subscribed a CMA magazine 新武俠(Xin Wu Xia) from Hong Kong. In that magazine, there was a section called "三招了(San Zhao Liao) - 3 moves combo". In each issue, there would be 4 different styles to demonstrate their 3 moves combo. excellent information but I can't see that kind of material in any other magazines."
John, Inside Kung Fu in the 80s used to have a section where various syles demonstrated how they would defend against a certain type of attack. It was very interesting and helped a person to understand the differences between the different systems of Kung Fu.
Kung fu is now becoming the karate of the 70's and 80's...
MMA mags are all over the place and the quality is high....
How many people subscribe to Kung Fu mag. More mags will follow IKF unless people wake up..
Focus on Chinese Martial arts with high quality, good depth of knowledge and professional writing is the only way to go.
Paul
It isn't that the magazine was about Chinese martial arts, it was that the content had become dog crap
Clearly fake people doing clearly fake stuff, too much hollywood/actors/wannabe actors, articles about absurd stuff no one cared about, lame attempts at cheese cake (ok, she's cute, yeah, she did karate one semester at the YMCA in highschool so let's put her in a martial arts mag)
The MMA mags are not much better actually
mma rags are mostly garbage.
aimed at 16 year old armchair fans for the most part spending a lot of time on mma personalities and very little time on training and fighting techniques which should be the bulk of any martial arts publication.
I would definitely like to see less about the legend of someone who lived in chinatown in the 70's and more about style centric information.
I don't care much about old men and what they did. lol That's too contextual for me.
Methods! Lot's of em! That's good ma reading!
Less story telling, more information spreading. :)
Agree! If I can't learn anything from a MA magazine, it will be waste of money and time for me. I would like to see the following subjects in any MA magazine:
How to:
- enter safely.
- finish effectively.
- develop combat strategies.
- counter a certain attack.
- counter those counters.
- train combos.
- train solo at home.
- develop, maintain, and enhance a certain skill.
- ...
I remember those and they used to have top level guys too, guys like Randy Williams, Tak Kubota, all of the name guys from that era.Quote:
John, Inside Kung Fu in the 80s used to have a section where various syles demonstrated how they would defend against a certain type of attack. It was very interesting and helped a person to understand the differences between the different systems of Kung Fu.
see I like some stories, maybe one an issue!!! I like to see....
diet ideas
qigong techniques
self-defence
weapons info and history
traditional chinese medicine
solo training ideas........
I could give a crap less about stars and which stunt person taught them two moves of wing chun for an upvoming flick!!!!!!!!
Very interesting ideas!
Agreed! Wasted space to me.
More stuff, less fluff!
Fluff may appeal to novices and pimply-faced teens, but substance would make me require all my students to subscribe to a magazine.
I wonder what the demographics is for KFM?
lol pure poetry of truth :)
That's all me :)
The 'less fluff & more stuff' issue is a good one, and the enterprising money-backed folks should simply note the two distinct differences and capitalize on it, IMO. "Okay, we'll let these guys do the history, technique and whatnot, and we will do the myths, hot chicks in wushu-silks, the karate guys who throw wushu-like-crap into their forms and call it kung fu, and a healthy dose of new age"...
Believe it or not - I think that would actually work :P