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TWS it is well known that you do not "like"SD so why should we believe anything that you say and so what,
well you dont have to take my word for it, the evidence is there. plus the countless other references to history and lineage and masters and such that have been run through here countless times to prove to you and others that what SD claims is Horsesh!t.
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GMT has only told what he was told I am for knowing the truth as well but this is getting old
so you are kinda making your Grandmaster out to be someone who was duped as well? this is a new spin on the denial.
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You are basing your assumptions on one thing an old pic that might or might not be of the same person I feel we collectively do not know.
i am actually basing things on evidence discovered and shared in this forum(from many people here). this "might be or might not be" is typical of the denial and downplaying that you and many others seem to be living in. you just cant open your eyes because they are clouded just as i was when i was a faithful follower.
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No one can prove or disprove where SD came from so the point is mute.
Well then if no-one can prove or disprove where sd came from then what you are saying is that the history IS in FACT fabricated. since you so eloquently state that NO_ONE can prove or disprove where SD came from, then it would be safe to assume that a history could be made up? see i call that "misrepresentation" and from where i stand and many others on this forum and in the martial community, that shows a lack of honor integrity and basically makes you guys out to be shams.
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BTW there are alot of people who look alike in pics.
this is true, but NOT in the case of the two pics i have posted, they are the same person. its been corroborated, everyone agrees with exception of the Sd'ers. I call this denial.
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Even if GMT said the story was a hoax , which I feel it was told to him, it doesnt change what is.
sure it does KC, it means that what you are learning is in fact not what you say it is, oh sure you and others can say that you train in an awesome martial art but it doesnt take away from the misrepresentation of the art itself. and who really wants to be a part of that? i surely dont, and others have done the same thing and are better off for it. i know it would be hard for someone who has been in the system for many many years to just up and leave and quit, its difficult to do and takes alot of courage and integrity to do so, rather than just not care and continue on with it and be isloated from the rest of the martial community who feel that you guys are misrepresenting yourselves and it is blatently obvious that you are.
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GM The is an awsome MA and great teacher and I will value all that I have learned and will learn in the future.
well good for you then KC, then all this shouldnt really matter to you now should it? but you still keep coming back to this thread and forum to defend and be a spin doctor and make the reality YOUR reality. you feel the ground getting a bit shakey underneath your feet KC?;) :p
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So TWS if what you say is true tell me what does it PROVE about the art of SD itself only that GM The was told a story, much like you about the pic , and is telling it to others as fact so what. Puts you in the same boat I would say.
no i think the boat is much different KC, in fact i am sailing in a different sea than you on this matter, the sea of reality not imagination.
You know Guys i like this new Spin on things. no longer is the accountability on the one who allegedly made up the lineage to begin with, the responsability is NOW being put on the the man in the painting called IE chang ming. Poor poor ill informed sin the' who doent know any better and is the victim now as we ALL are of this fabrication:rolleyes:
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