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No -I did not say or mean either of the two positions you state above.
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I don't have any firsthand knowledge of drunken English violence. Maybe "pub culture" isn't as bad a thing as excessive alcohol consumption itself. Dunno. In my town, kids just steal their parents' Sudafed and make meth (the TV show Breaking Bad, btw, is filmed and set in my hometown of Albuquerque, New Mexico. Glad we're famous for something!).
What does this have to do with Wing Chun weapons? I suppose that training them is useful, despite their surface impracticality ("a man walks into a pub with a Dragon Pole. The waitress asks, 'Do you practice Wing Chun, or are you just happy to see me?'"). We can train them to prepare ourselves to use real-world analogues - a broomstick insead of a 6.5 point pole, etc.
The thing that always springs to my mind when I think about Albuquerque (which, to be honest isn't too often) is that it's where Bugs Bunny should have turned left:)
Back to the weapons debate though, according to my sifu there are still valid reasons for training with the weapons... Pole strengthens wrists... Knives is all about footwork / tightens up hand positions.
You know what Bugs Bunny would have done had he made the correct turn here? Started a meth lab, that's what.
I also find that the swords REALLY strengthen the wrists, and both weapons help with body unity/two hand coordination.
Sweet F A (to use a local term!) but everybody was getting on the wagon ;) so I thought I would add my ten pence.
With regards to the thread I have made my oint as clear as I can and I am a true believer in keeping the Weaponry attached to our Art for more than cultural or mystical reasons.
Right. My "what does this have to do with weapons" thing was more for me to get back on topic than criticize what anyone was saying about fighting English drunks.
The whole field of non-lethal self-defense alternatives is a rich one, and usually best approached with locals. Some of those teaching combat handgun and concealed carrry courses (at least in the US) are a great source of this as they are usually pretty familiar with local laws and what works. Many of the best among those instruct law enforcement so that's who I'd go to.
Mixing Styles & Weapons? READ Wing Chun and Karambit by Tony Angso
http://www.kungfumagazine.com/admin/...3-Karambit.jpg
I see the pole as most beneficial. For strength building and a great work out if you have heavy long pole
How ever the knives are great too. I have both Double Killing Blades as well as using regular machetes.
Today the equivalent of the double killing blades would be knives or machetes. I use both traditional butterfly swords
as well as modern day weapons. But Upon careful study i see that certain weapons were added to WC later.
I wonder if any other lineages thought about adding new weapons to their training to make it more functional?