I bought the Iron Palm Jow kit from a website called eastmeetswest.com. What is in the Iron Palm jow that makes it different from any other one?
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I bought the Iron Palm Jow kit from a website called eastmeetswest.com. What is in the Iron Palm jow that makes it different from any other one?
A good Jow should be balanced and promote blood circulation. The quality not the quantity of herbs used in preparing Jow is important. Just because a jow contains, for example, 24 herbs does not necessarily make it a good one. Train well.
Damian
I took a look at the website you mentioned and this is my opinion:
(1) If you are not familiar with herbs you don't know what you are getting.
(2) What herbs are used in this formula? Hopefully, they will tell you???
(3) $25 a kit is alot of money. If you knew how to make your own Jow, you could add a few dollars to the $25 and make enough Jow for a couple of years.
(4) I noticed that this company uses plastic bottles. You should never purchase a Jow in a plastic bottle. No matter how good the Jow is, it will lose its potency. By the way, when you prepare the Jow you purchased from that company, make sure you find a glass, 1 gallon, container to "stew" your Jow. If you have to cook this Jow DO NOT USE A STEEL POT. Use a ceramic/crock pot.
Damian
They said that they don't make the jow for you. They send you the herbs and you make it yourself. Since I got recipes from the same website, I'm under the impression that they use the ingredients in said recipes.
The Iron Palm Jow might be a Jow specifically designed for Iron Palm training or it might be a made up name for random ingredients thrown together and called a Jow.
Find out more about where the recipe came from. Seek the source.
dfe****o is right. I would be very suspicious based on the plastic bottles.
Most websites who sell you the herbs and let you make it are not someone I would trust.
dfe****o, do you really think $25 is a lot for quality Jow. I have paid 10 to 100 times more for Jow and it was worth it. Of course, those are specialized Jow's. Or do you think that $25 is too much for a Jow kit? I guess I need clarification on what comes in a kit and what is expected of the buyer.
For an example, for a particular recipe I purchase 4 ounces of each herb, 14 herbs in the recipe. It cost me under $50 (don't have the exact cost in front of me)for the herbs. With these herbs I make 5 gallons of Jow. So now BSH, what do you think?? The $25/gallon is fine for someone who has no training in herbs/herbal formulas. If we would know what went into that kit, I don't believe either one of us would purchase it. I have paid my dues as well. When I began making Jow I was taken for a ride twice ($150)for this recipe and I don't want that to happen to someone else. The purpose of this thread is to help my fellow MA's in their Herbal knowledge and Jow preparations.
Damian
Agreed. I guess the difference is trust and knowledge. My thought process is the following:
If I know the formula, I will get the herbs myself, unless they are extinct and can only be purchased from an individual who has it. If I didn't have to pay for the formula, I would worry.
If I am buying pre-mixed herbs without the recipe listed (either Jow or ingredients and instructions), I would expect to pay two to three times the value of the herbs. Profit margin.
I am always suspect of things that sound too good to be true. I think we are both barking up the same tree. I don't trust this supplier.
Does this place tell you everything that is in the kit??
Jumping into this thread a little late in the game, but...
I'm learning Wing Chun and my immediate lineage doesn't have
a traditional recipe for jow, but I've been thinking about trying
some. I've heard that the store bought stuff isn't all that great
and most of the store bought stuff comes in plastic bottles, which
I've read is bad. So I've looked around and found a few recipes
around the web and in books, but I've never been able to find
a place that sells the ingredients. I'm also not sure what I'm
looking for in a store. Most of the places I've looked in seemed
to only have pre-bottled medications behind the counter. I've
considered trying out one of those assemble-yourself kits, but
have been pretty hesitant.
So... starting with the assumption that I like my school and don't
want to switch sifus (not to mention there really isn't any other
kung fu near where I live), what would be the best way for me
to break into the wonderous world o' jow?
Thanks.
BSH - It just might list the ingreients if it was on the bottle/package? Some of the glass bottles/plastic bottles of Jow I have seen list the ingredients. For example, Wing Lam's bottle prints the ingredients in Chinese and Latin so that no one can copy his Jow. I am curious enough to want to see the ingredients of this kit.
Marshdweller (apologize, forgot your name)- Send an email to me and I will help you on your Dit Da Jow path.
Damian
Marshdrifter:
To date, Damian is the only one I have chatted with who I might trust to provide Dit Da. My school is talking about releasing some Dit Da to the public in a few months and I will let you know if and when the decision is finalized. Until then, talk to Damian and see if he can help.
Appreciate the comment and I want to throw it right back at you my Jow-cooking friend.
Damian
I'd appreciate it. Thanks.Quote:
Originally posted by BSH
Marshdrifter:
To date, Damian is the only one I have chatted with who I might trust to provide Dit Da. My school is talking about releasing some Dit Da to the public in a few months and I will let you know if and when the decision is finalized. Until then, talk to Damian and see if he can help.
What is the importance of tiger or large cat bone? Why wouldn't cow or horse bone work? Does it need to be from a preditory animal? What is the real reason it is used and how does it make the dit da more powerful?
Tiger bone is called for in certain recipes. The herb can either make the Jow more potent and it can balance or tonify the Jow. It is possible to substitue herbs for herbs such as Tiger Bone but I wouldn't know what to substitute. If you need further info I would try to find one.
Damian
I found out this morning from my Iron Palm Brother, Master Kruger, that some herbalists use Dog or Cat/Feline Bone as a substitute for Tiger bone but the energy is not the same. You would have to double the dosage of the substitutes to get the same energy using the real McCoy. Others use Calcium Carbonate/ Qian Nian Jian, a botannical substitute. Hope Master Kruger has answered your question.
Damian