I would say there's an obviously different quality to this type of transformation, than with what is seen between the various village styles of Xiaohongquan.
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why do you try to obscure simple ideas with fancy words? :rolleyes:
in short, NO, the differences are NOT different, you just WANT them to be different
the entire shaolin thing is absurd when you understand that in 1986 the place was in ruins and there were only 5 or 6 old monks there... the whole thing is a rackett
Which word was fancy? lol
Do you even know what particular boxing sets we're talking about?Quote:
in short, NO, the differences are NOT different, you just WANT them to be different
So you are just trolling. My shifu was there and ordained prior to that time with physical evidence that proves it. There were not just "5 or 6 unnamed old monks" there. Troll on.Quote:
the entire shaolin thing is absurd when you understand that in 1986 the place was in ruins and there were only 5 or 6 old monks there... the whole thing is a rackett
if you think that all the "monks" that are there now are some unbroken line going back to the mystical past, then you are deluded
If you think "shaolin kung fu" is someone special or different from all the kung fu practiced in the north, you are deluded
If you think those videos are proof of 200 or thousand year old sets, you are deluded
but, then again, most of the shaolin crowd are deluded
You have a short memory. We have had this discussion before.
I explained the deeply embedded culture in Song mountian and the many village styles. I went to this specific village as I said above. I have actually learned these forms. I made copies of the old poems written about them.
There is no point in discussion with you. I already did it before, I made my points clear, you simply insulted me. It was not a profitable argument, then you deleted the entire thread.
lol
Alright bud. I think this is where we part company...
Peace.
kitchen is too hot, so you run for the door, how typical :rolleyes:
the great shaolin temple, instead of teaching you all to be great warriors, it taught you to be little women ....
Your teacher was NOT at shaolin when you claim... like I said, I know people who were there...
get over it, or committ suicide if it bothers you so much
You can't formulate an argument with more depth than; "You would see it if you understood it but since you don't understand it I can't show it to you" so you pull the troll card. Does HW108 know you're biting his style?
I call it how I see it; a bunch of rural villagers that when they aren't busy squatting on their heels curbside chain smoking cheap cigarettes practice some longfist.
Don;t get me wrong, that is certainly better than 98% of what most people see but spare me the ancient wellspring of heretofore unaltered Ming era kung fu. Untouched, except of course, you found it. . . (i imagine you would be rather shocked about who knows what about this and other villages like it)
I don't doubt a connection to Shaolin; Hong quan is all over Northern China but taking oral history at face value is pure sinophilia naiveté and you have absolutely no qualifications to adequately make any of the determinations you claims as proof that these forms represent a more ancient form of kung fu.