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Originally Posted by Green Cloud
Seven star, thank you for giving me the break down of who won what fights. Those guys that steped into the ring claiming to do kung fu were not kung fu guys.
have you ever noticed that whenever a kung fu guy loses, the cma world says "They weren't real kung fu guys"? When muay thai loses, we don't say "He wasn't a real muay thai guy" he just lost. big deal. but CMA guys always scrutinize - "look at his footwork; that's not CMA", "we don't attack like that - where is his fa jing?" "why doesn't he use his trapping?" that being the case, where are the real kung fu guys?
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Know don't get me wrong, I know that you love BBJ and favor it, but it's not the end all beat all. It's just the flavor of the month.
actually I don't love bjj. I love judo and muay thai. I train bjj because I recognize the need for a good ground game. but recently, that's not my focus. I train bjj when I can. However, it's far from the flavor of the month. to be complete, you need ground work. that's something that's not going away soon, as we've seen over the past 12 years or so.
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Of course Cung le has a wrestling back round, and that will only help him in the UFC. Altough as I stated what will make Cung a great fighter is His San Da training. Once again San Da is a CMA, In my statements obove I was defending San Da a modern form of Kung Fu, and that's a fact.
which is fine, but that is not the scope of this thread. The thread concerns what cung le in mma will do for cma. the answer is nothing, because cung is not a pure cma. it's that simple. Now, if he indeed was a pure cma, it would do quite a bit for the cma world.
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And oh yea In Tae kwon do there is a different type of rythem to the kicking they do. It's usualy fast with multiple kicks, just because you saw kung throw a spinning back kick doesn't mean that it's automaticaly a Tae kwon do kick.
muay thai has a spinning back kick too, as do most styles. why would I think that?
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In Kung Fu we employ 68 different types of kicks, wich resemble other styles but have a distinct energy.
once again, that's nothing unique.
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You could say Bruce Lee was a mixed martial artist but did he moved like Chuck Norris??? Do you think Bruce got his cat like movement from karate or jiu jitsu??
I wouldn't call him mma at all. jkd philosophy is different from mma. In addition, bruce got his cat like movement from being an athlete. He was just naturally gifted. he didn't get that from 5 years of wing chun. Had he been a karate exponent, he would've had the same reflexes.
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Now don't get me wrong this isn't a chalenge seven star, You are more than welcome to vsit my Kwoon. I would love to have a friendly sparring match with you so I can show you why San Da has distinctive kung fu tech.
That's cool. I've met several people from this forum. If I'm ever in the area, I'll drop you a line. As far as san da goes, I know it's different from muay thai though - that's not my point.