it is very obvious momentum handling wise this person doesnt have it compare with Gary.
If it is a real fight, with Gary's full attack, he cant take Gary's momentum. no way he could stand. he really doesnt have much to show.
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it is very obvious momentum handling wise this person doesnt have it compare with Gary.
If it is a real fight, with Gary's full attack, he cant take Gary's momentum. no way he could stand. he really doesnt have much to show.
Tell me about it. What makes this vid an embarrassment to the entire WC community is not Gary Lam getting pwned...lol. It's the massive over reaction on the part of WC practitioners everywhere. Can you imagine if you sparred a couple rounds with Floyd Mayweather and you happened to get video of yourself landing "a" jab on him and then went around the net bragging about how Mayweather ain't all that. Hey man, I totally nailed him with that one jab that one time. . .:rolleyes:
Just to drive the point home and because this topic annoys me, I created a tiny highlight video of the Switerland "incident":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlB22_c8er8
This thread just remind me this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pip97t50XbE
lol. Yeah. Kind of.
Different events but the responses are kind of similar.
I don't think it reflects badly on Gary, WC or Kung Fu at all. Everybody is human, ie not perfect.
We all know that fighting doesn't look pretty. I guess the underlying reason I felt like posting this up was because of my feeling that Kung fu gets the double standard all the time.
That is: other disciplines get plenty of chances to setup thier opponent and make thier methods work. Boxing perfect example.
Kung fu on the other hand is too often perceived to be just like a movie. So if a fancy move doesn't work ON THE VERY 1ST EXCHANGE...then obviously kung fu must suck.
Omars vid nails it, when Gary Neck grabs the dude and kind of shows some gritty mock punches (IE what he would do if he was Pi$$ed off)... to me it shows a more realistic albeit relaxed Gary.
;) I'm not saying that MOCK Fighting is real fighting, i'm just pointing out that Gary didn't have to be in perfect stances or body structure to kick some ass if he wanted to either.
I don't know why it should bother some people if Kung Fu fighting doesn't end up looking PERFECTLY like a form...because it almost never does, Unless you sneak up on someone haha.
Ground connection, hip transfer, relaxed shoulder, sunk elbow as a common ground for kung fu punching can still be there. Even if for some, it looks kinda ugly.
This incident is the reason that one cannot bring video cameras or mobile phones to most seminars.
In another note, chi sao is not fighting. I have done chi sao with people who wanted to make it a testosterone contest. This is what I see in the video. This and other videos which purportedly show VT "masters" getting "owned" does a disservice to the art.
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The Taiwanese taichi person had poor structure and was much less skilled than CXW- just adjusted to the force- stepping back at one point....CXW did not retaliate...didn't need to- as far as I can tell.
Reading this post reminds me of that vid a few years back of the street fight between one guy with a red shirt showing his kung fu pose and the other guy trying to keep his pants up and being all tough. When the fight went down the red shirt guy threw a few, what looked like, sow choys and landed one that KTFO the other guy. He used his style to set up his opponent.
This 'challenge' vid is an example of the sifu not expecting his partner to test him. IMO, an instructor needs to be ready at all times when he/she partners up with someone new because you never know their intentions. You cannot let your guard down for one sec, just be ready. Not saying that in this vid the guy had bad intentions, but he obvisouly wanted to test out the Sifu.
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True. When you are dealing with a subject matter and teaching, talking and explaining one can suddenly have a person seeking his minute of fame.
That's all that there was to the Gary Lam incident.
It's happened to others . There is the Boztepe "challenge" at a a William Cheung seminar.
Boztepe's reputation began there.
In taiji-- in Tucson (I was there) a big guy took a swing at CXW after a quick warning-- CXW
controllrd the guy and out him down on the floor. In an incident in Germany (hamburg??)- a person jumped CXW from behind and got a Chen elbow to his heart..resulting in the guy needing medical attention because of the possibility of heart fibrillation. CXW since then requires very strict waiver of liability from participants in seminars.
In Tucson- years ago... Sugar Ray Leonard was preparing for a bout with an Argentinian. In camp-- one person in the audience insisted in doing some light sparring. Leonard allowed him into the ring.. but the guy really tried to go for it. A quick flashing Leonard left hook to the liver
humbled the challenger.(I was there in the audience)
Onlookers do not always keep in mind -there are possible legal issues involved - specially in over-reacting by someone who is challenged..
That actually happened only it was floyd mayweather sr who was sucker punched:D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbVJkyt-mgg