You werent there you dont know. No marketing here if you do MA with out the "philosophical side you miss half of what is taught. If you are talking Shaolin then it originally started as a means by which the Monks could withstand the rigors of the training. As with all societies not all were violent and many did not fight to survive. Xia why do you spout off about this when all you are doing is fishing. You are missing out man. KC