rodney king teaches a similar strike out of the CM structure, first time i saw it i was reminded of m lung ying training, there really isnt nothing new under the sun
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In terms of that outside to inside hammer fist. I think that it has application if you shorten it up a lot. In bare knuckles fighting hitting peoples elbows can be a concern when you go to the body. You can use a significantly shortened hammer fist to attack the ribs. It will certainly frog your partners arm as well. My instructor rarely used a body hook unless you put gloves on him.
@ Ten & Frost.
I was going to mention the Hakka short armed version of the hammer fist...
Its a lot different, coming from the arms forward position, its as bit more like that combatives video earlier in the thread, but with more waist, drop and forward movement.
Comparing it to an axe is a fair comment, to my mind, side of head and neck attacks, or a clearing move. Not really an opening move, but a follow up.
yes in shao lin fist
it is called the monk is beating the drum
or he shang ji gu.
however, fist forms are different from tong bei.
but the ideas are the same.
:)
The hammerfist is always a bad opener. It's hard to nail someone when you're going over the top with it all the time. You want to go over the top then I'll come in from the bottom and slip a jab or cross with the same arm I used to guard against it. I've always felt that it's one of the only strikes the standard upper block is good for. That's even a little too complicated though. If your opponent is keeping their hands up, I don't see how it's really effective unless you've already blasted them with something else and they aren't keeping themselves covered anymore.
I don't see why the guy in gold couldn't block the right hammerfist at around 1:55:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY1Hi...eature=related
Even if you were lightening fast this would be hard to pull off without getting clocked with a left at around 0:38 seconds:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOD_MuvzcwY&NR=1
ive seen some variations of the hammer fist in some boxing styles. used sort of like a short jab when the elbow is already up and horizontal... know what i mean?