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I fought Sanda and sub wrestling (and I'm thinking about returning to San Da next year), my contemporaries fight/fought Kuoshu and my juniors fight Kyokushin, how much more of a fighting club do you want?
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Techniques working? Ross shows Sow Chui with the shoulder on one of his DVDs (Punching and Clinching or Combat Sports Camp vol2, I can't remember), and Biu Ma as a hip and/or shoulder strike is done by pretty much EVERY competitive Judo, Ju Jitsu, Sambo and wrestling guy on the planet :rolleyes:
Ok let's see video, since that seems to be the gold standard here. We're probably not even talking about the same thing.