But you got the point
When ng chan was perfoming technics and doing shi Sao with him, he was doing like a game, like he was joking but in fact ...
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Wing Chun will survive for another millennia because it IS being preserved and taught to the next generation by many competent Sifus throughout the World. Even from reading through the article it is evident that my own Sigung Lee Shing inherited everything you have mentioned so far, which didn't surprise me at all. It is very nice to finally read someones notes form training in the original language of our art too because it is here that I see so many similarities with what I learnt. Sigung Lee Shing shunned the limelight too and didn't ever teach a foreigner, but he made sure that all of his students DID and this I am forever grateful for.
It is a shame that some of us choose to only teach a few, but imho that is because the ammount of time and effort one needs to put into Wing Chun is a lot more than most think. And most simply can not 'take it', it has to be passed on with few interuptions and modern lifestyle choices simply do not allow this to happen much anymore.
My Sifu used to say that 'Wing Chun chooses you, you don't choose Wing Chun' and I myself have seen hundreds pass his gate without entering. Maybe MOSHE also feels the same about his Sifu? But I assure you there are more of us out here than you may have first thought ;) You are not alone...
If your goal is to slowly let the knowledge and skill that you posses disappear from the world, then you should teach like this. This is what is wrong with traditional martial arts pedagogy....or lack thereof.Quote:
From the 1st day I entered the school to leaving, almost a 10 year period, I never asked sifu one question about the application of an action, and never asked about related skills. He spoke I listened, whatever he trained I trained.
This is a noble sentiment, but I wonder how Ki Ping Pun himself taught. Did he simply reproduce the "behaviorist" (monkey see, monkey do) model the he himself was subjected to? If so, it's no wonder that only one person was able to learn the system successfully.Quote:
I feel that times have changed. A beautiful and complete combat system like Wing Chun Kuen, if one day it should disappear like it never even existed [inheritor is also overseas], then as a piece of Chinese culture it would be a great loss, and an even greater let down to the creators of this contribution to Chinese culture. Therefore I hope that even more people can inherit and transmit this.
For Moshe please-
Moshe- you have asserted that Ng Chan's videos are unreliable indicators of his wing chun.
So I have a direct question- when you are about to run your horse- what is the relative weighting of your back and front leg? Thanks,
joy chaudhuri
Wooden dummy pics from article:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/17731131@N00/6106348326
In picture 1, my teacher's (Ng Chan) wrists, 24 years ago he chi sau's with my student (Moshe?).
http://www.flickr.com/photos/17731131@N00/6106348384
Picture 2, my student 24 years later, look at his wrists, Yip Man's wrists.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/17731131@N00/6106348486
Bruce Lee is inadequate here (Pic 3), therefore, he does not have the bridge strength. [afterwards, each time anyone meets a so-called Wing Chun Kuen master, first look at their wrists, if it is not like this, ha ha].
http://www.flickr.com/photos/17731131@N00/6106348508
Ip man didn't explain so much and ng chan also
The latest could do perfectly al the system but even by the words of kpp he wasn't really willing or being able to put his understanding in words.
Between Kpp and me , it has been totally different , he can explain everything regarding logical and modern explanation
You have to understand that these guys by the time they learned WC
It was from 8am to midnight(for Kpp) and nothing else in their heads
Living in their sifu home
Fully available for the the learning
For me between work, family... It had to be different
That's why we did this thread too.
That's why too ,ip man students have differents ways
If you teach yourself , you will understand if you don't go to catch up the deformations caused by your students, not two of them will do the same
Regards
Completely agree with this statement. You should be able to ask your Sifu anything. Fong Sifu will answer questions you have to anyone, at any level, and will really try to make sure you understand. He also does mini-seminars at the end of every month. Every one videotaped for the days, god forbid, we no longer have him.
He's always been of the belief that it's up to you to decide your own progression and digestion. Aside from requiring to learn the first form and the basics, everything else is up to you when you want to learn it. You could learn chum kiu and biu gee back to back if you wanted to but it doesn't mean you'll be able to understand it. There's some students who have been training for 10 years still on chum kiu but at their own choosing.....
When you walk , you throw your front leg and you feet will touch the ground , you fill the gap with the back leg : during a short moment your front leg will support you and when you back feet is in position than all the weight is on the back leg
You test you by lifting you front leg without sign of this movement on the rest of the body
The leg has no weight on her that could delay a reaction in order to kick or escape
from a kick attact on it
We train 50/50 but I can see the advantage of back leg distribution in application. I have a Si-Hing who I go pretty rough with from time to time in Gor Sau. Kicks, throws, the whole nine yards. Anyway, there's been quite a few times where he'll come in really hard and interrupt my timing right as I'm changing footwork and I'm forced to have my weight on my back leg, to not only deflect the incoming force(you actually go with the force easier on one leg) but also to switch mobility. All those years of that drill where you stand on one leg for anywhere from 2-10 minutes paid off! I still think training 50/50 is the more rounded approach to the stance but it definitely is an invaluable skill to be able to sink your structure on one leg at a moments notice.