I implied nothing:rolleyes:
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some more examples of the broad expressions of shaolin do ...
various west coast sd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vztv6io9fII
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4CJRqBwheA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4uncJ61Atk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pz9MZMgDVs
new york sd school demo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G81Pvua9_08
ugh. why would someone put those test videos up? ever heard of dynamic tension? point sparring? *sigh* the sad thing is, he probably thinks he did great, and I'm sure he passed his test. I just hope the rest of the forms he did were way better. It looked like he just learned tiger crane and he was barely remembering it...of course, there is no excuse for a third black performing like that. (maybe this was a pretest?) The lack of standards is evident. How can you train for seven or eight years and still perform like that?
I know I shouldn't judge from here, testing can be stressfull. But stress doesn't account for that.
Not to speak for Bruce, but if he only studies internal, then he can only really comment on the Hsing-Ie two man set.
I'm sure the guy passed the test too, and certainly all of the moves were present, but he lacked the tempo (or more spedicfially did many of the forms too fast), the dynamic tension (in the appropriate parts) and the intent and power behind these forms. That's not his fault, because I've been told that some teachers under the CSC teach most of their forms to be performed with that level of speed and lack of power. (I'm basing this from a frined who has trained under a CSC 4th degree and with me under my teacher).
How common is it to have teenager testing for 3rd black?
Not at all in our branch. You get younger ones that will have a "youth black sash" which is a simplified curriculim, but when they get older, they have to go back, pick up the remaining material and retest. Hence they stay 1st black for several years before they have the opportunity to move on.
Heck, my teacher is the oldest son of Master G. Mullins (8th degree now) and he was in his early 20s before he tested to third and he had been practicing regularly since he was at least 5. (He's now in his late 20s and a 5th degree).
Some of the guys form can be blamed on his age, but some of it has to be the instruction (that's just how some people are taught to do things).
Does anyone care to comment on the bird forms vids comparisons? Skipped right past that into the discussion of their SD debut....LOL.....:D