I havent' been able to get my computer to play the myspace vids. I'm curious to compare them.
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After looking at some videos of california-based vietnamese shaolin schools, I see more likenesses with those than with "regular" shaolin. Just seems to strengthen the kuntao idea...shaolin based, indonesian influenced...etc...
ttm/leto,
i did not post links of that stuff for people to be insulting. if you think it should be better dont type about it show us a video of how you would do it better/different.
mk,
in atl there are very few kids who are above 1st black. one who is has been training since he was like 6 years old and he is maybe 21ish now ... he is a exception
the thing that caught my eye during the "demo" was hsing i linking form. i did not know what it was at first and then i was like ohhhhh ...
now i have received some (deserved) flack for my expression of hsing i linking
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dEV39bhIO0I
6.06-6.27 you will see their expression of hsing i linkage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pz9MZMgDVs
is this the way it is intended to be performed. is this what is taught as hsing i linking?
i thought the videos were average for a person who has done a few years of casual training. not too bad ...
"point sparring" i must say i do not like it ...
best,
bruce
Move wise, yes. I was able to pick out all the postures (with the exception of cross-horizontal block that was lacking from theirs and yours). It all comes down to the "flavor" of the person teaching. I have been around long enough to be able to tell 99% of the time who was taught by who.Quote:
the thing that caught my eye during the "demo" was hsing i linking form. i did not know what it was at first and then i was like ohhhhh ...
.........is this the way it is intended to be performed. is this what is taught as hsing i linking?
Yours for example is classic M. Grooms. The way you punch, the foot work...heck, you probably even do those short burst exhales through your nose.
That being said, its hard to critique the forms. They don't generally look like how I do them because they didn't learn them when and from who I did. But for the most part, they look fine.
Guess I am going to drag my old, crippled butt out of the shadows and go to the tournement tomorrow. Please, any of you, stop by and say hi;)
For anyone interested in the subject, those vids were from the World MA Festival held on July 30th 2007, at at the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints in Westminster, California. (Man, I hope there's no such thing as Vietnamese Mormons....LOL...):D
http://nguyenkinhdoanh.com/News9/WMA...%20Photos.html
Theres a pic of the venue.
May be linked to Kienando, in terms of the binh dinh kung fu (shaolin-based):
http://www.kienandokungfu.com/Introd...andokungfu.htm
Their vids don't necessarily confirm that, although they're very good.
I fired off an email to a guy who helped organize the festival, to see if I could find out what school they're from, or what their history/lineage is to see if there's some info on these bird forms out there.
I'll post what info I get, if any. But I don't really expect much.
Their sign says: Vo Kinh
Van An
Searches don't really turn up much.
hi gt,
can you elaborate on the "cross-horizontal" block you were talking about ... thanks
i am going to make a new linking clip when i have time as i think i have "fixed" a few of the many things lacking in my hsing i ... mostly to do with my whole body start/stop together instead of the way i approached it in the clip you saw where i think i am doing the punches for example in a "wave" like way more like i approach tai chi chuan.
that is a exhale "trait" many have in atl ... i think i do that "air burst" through my mouth though as it feels like i am going to hurt my nose exhaling that hard out my nose ... (or snot on myself lol ... )
any and all advice would be great. thanks.
best,
bruce
Check out vids of Tinh Vo Dao on youtube or something. There's a lot out there. Looks way more like stuff from our system than others do in terms of "flavor".
(not just the French dudes vids....LOL.....but they're alright).
Although if you look at his applications vid, there's some that we have exactly in the same sequences of strikes/locks/throws in ippons and techniques..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87xnSNifTB8
@:20 technique 1 (although, these are probably basic techs of almost any MA, he does them much like us).
@ 1:25...ippon 3 or 4 leading to takedown
He's pretty good......but I wouldn't call his forms "pretty"....LOL.....
Oh I know KC quite well. I am sure I will talk to him once or twice. Darn shame you can't make it up here. Maybe someday....:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by JP
Yes, after you smack the hand down, rise, down (Retreat, embrace the fist) then step out right foot-left cannon fist, you block with the right forearm, step back into 3 body. I was shown that the right forearm block you do comes after you step back and to the outside(left leg forward/right hand block out aka heng chien/horizontal cross fist).Quote:
can you elaborate on the "cross-horizontal" block you were talking about ... thanks
Interestingly, looking at Master Sin's original notes, there is no mention of it. Guess thats a perfect example of me adding it along the way. His notes go straight from cannon fist, retreat, left chopping hand. See, it always pays to take good notes!
[QUOTE=shaolindoiscool;795608]hi gt,
can you elaborate on the "cross-horizontal" block you were talking about ... thanks
I think he meant the crossing fist that comes after the cannon fist part of the linkage......from the crossing fist you go back to three body then to a little monkey block to chopping fist twice..2nd time with knee up then step into chicken eats the rice...then back to crushing fist and on..........
BQ
hi gt,
thank you for the insight ...
i know where you are talking about and that posture would make sense there but is different than i have understood from my instruction...
since we have small variations in choreography maybe you could share some insight into the important principals that should be followed with hsing i that i may be lacking in my expression of hsing i ??? maybe expant on what kc was telling me about 3 body/san ti etc ... thanks.
best
bruce