Here's what wing lam has to say about chinese sai (with video):
http://www.wle.com/products/VHG32D.html
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Here's what wing lam has to say about chinese sai (with video):
http://www.wle.com/products/VHG32D.html
I think you also have to take with a grain of salt some Chinese "nunchuck" forms. While the two section staff certainly existed, there's also quite a few who adopted nunchucks inspired by the movies (particularly Bruce Lee). And yes, it's not allways Japanese stylists "stealing" material from kungfu... sometimes it DOES work the other way ;)
Here was the earlier topic discussed here:
http://forum.kungfumagazine.com/foru...ad.php?t=25439
I wonder if there are any guns at the Shaolin temple (no, I don't mean staves)?
What caliber gun do you think Shaolin sponsors?
I'm thinking something flashy, maybe nickel plated, with a flag on it, of course.
has anyone compared sd's mantis with other styles of mantis? If so how does sd's mantis match up, and what style does it most closely resemble?
White Monkey STP and other White Monkey Mantis ones are pretty comparable as well.
Don't know many others. But the Master of the school I go to conducted 4 mantis seminars this summer, and taught mantis just like most other schools, as far as applications go. I think it was Mantis 7/8 hands drills, etc. Very cool 2 person drills, practicing elbows and defenses, hip strikes, etc.
More info than I can process......
The mantis sets there are supposed to be of 7 star origin or they claim that it IS seven star but since i was a mantis guy before SD and comparing and since then, the mantis at sd is pretty terrible and it is choppy and karate like(have done it and felt like i was doing karate or a uhhh hybridized version). absolutely NOTHING like Traditional Mantis. again youtube is going to show you some pretty good mantis stuff but SD doesnt have any you tube mantis being demo'd.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSTyL333hRk
here is some old footage. pretty cool considering, some mantis in there at the beginning and other stuff.
Peace,TWS
OMG... love those clips. Something about old dudes demonstrating in a suit...
For the record, the rice planter/potato digger story about a Sai is apocryphal. It is a common short truncheon/sword design found throughout SouthEast Asia. Favored by pirates for some reason.
You have to be careful when using the term 'kuntao' as it has many meanings:
Prior to Independence, it meant 'martial arts'
After Independence and the establishment of 'bahasa indonesia' as the official language, Dutch and Chinese terms were forbidden, and the term 'Silat' became the generic term for martial arts. In other words you have 'Indonesian Silat', Chinese Silat (CMA), Japanese Silat (JMA) etc...
KunTao can mean:
Modern Chinese martial arts
Chinese martial arts that have been practiced for centuries in the Nusantra
Hybrid Chinese/Indo arts
Syncretic arts with a Chinese base integrating karate/jujitsu/silat whatever
For instance, I WOULD call SD 'kuntao' but it is not the same thing I refer to as Kuntao in my practice. And it does not change the fact that SD does not demonstrate any actual understanding of many of the things they teach.