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Got vid? Honestly every time I hear someone make that claim there's no proof. And the air force academy? Really? That wouldn't exactly be a challenge for a regular boxer.
All that really matters is that
Liam Neeson looks like a
total bad arse
when he uses that eclectic mix
of kali, wing chun, and boxing
in the Taken movies!!!
http://media2.firstshowing.net/first...treet-full.jpg
Yawn. So what's your pro record? Riding on the victories of MMA fighters who train your style(s) is no different than riding on the coattails of famous TCMA masters.
Anyway, yeah, beating the dead horse is right. I got into too many of these discussions when I first started here--gets old quick.
Real TCMA rocks. 'Nough said.
Bacon's not wrong in his assessment. TCMA is mostly behind the times when it comes to actually fighting.
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Kellen and N are correct in saying that you can get it to work with hard work.
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TCMA IMO was originally for fighting with weapons. Without weapons drilling and sparring, that skill level has dropped significantly in practice. TCMA without weapons was a last resort and had tricks that were passed down that would hopefully allow you to kill a dude quickly and then get another weapon. Not sure what that would've looked like in practice, but I doubt it resembled anything that's done in Kwoons now.
I'd be willing to wager a taco that the spiritual practice was kept separate from the martial practice and that self cultivation, while deemed important for a holistic lifestyle, wasn't a big part of original MA.
me imagining old skool MA
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"Punching people in the throat rocks!"
"Cool, lets practice. What if he tries to hit you?"
"Block it and punch him in the throat"
"Dude, what do you do if a guy grabs you?"
"Punch him in the throat."
No air punching or forms. Just two dudes working out the nuances of punching each other in the throat.
Forms came later... much much later. I think opium may have been involved.
I will believe TCMA is effective at fighting against trained opponents when I see someone win a MMA match using TCMA techniques.
This is not a TCMA fighting stance:
http://www.theonetwopunch.com/images/fittip1199.jpg
This is not a TCMA block:
http://i.imgur.com/k3Puz.jpg
If you use these techniques, you are not doing TCMA (at least not at that moment).
Not exactly considering that (1)MMA is a ruleset and not a fighting style and (2) I can point to videos of exponents of muay Thai, boxing, kickboxing freestyle/Greco roman wrestling, bjj, having won matches against skilled, resisting opponents in the last hundred years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaolin Dan
And it's 11-0. I'm Rickson Gracie biatch!
And yet there's magically no video of this and the only thing you get from TCMA folks is more excuses and snapping at the mouth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saolin Dan
we're trying to take representational martial arts that were based on this:
http://c.ooi1.com/asian-art/warriors.jpg
and somehow make them work in the context of this:
http://blog.betdsi.com/wp-content/uploads/rousey12.jpg
See the disconnect?
we should stop trying to do the sport that we're not even remotely close to and we should start trying to use the rules and training from a sport like this
http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pu...006-2_8636.jpg
What she's using is judo/BJJ, as opposed to ancient CMA. Of course, you could say that JMA originated from CMA at its core, but there can be little dispute that JMA placed a much greater emphasis on ground grappling, and developed its own unique characteristics. And empty-hand fighting in both CMA and JMA always took a back seat (way back) to weapons combat.