I WANT to be educated - that is why I participate in THIS
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Originally Posted by
Sal Canzonieri
Tien Shien Pai is a modern 1940s amalgamated system developed by someone that was pretty much like Sin The. He made it all up (history and origin) and based the style on real martial art routines from various systems. That system teaches a hodgepodge of material from all over.
Same as Sin The's material is based on actual real routines, its not alien stuff not found anywhere on earth.
Real true deep Chinese Martial Arts don't teach a ton of forms.
You spend years learning how and why to do core body mechanics and movements, but they also teach how even the stretching and warm up moves can be used for self defense. Though they may give you deep and long term learning of the foundational material, they right away emphasize being able to defense yourself using everyday natural movements, so no time is wasted.
Every single school or person I learned CMA from in the late 70s, 80s, etc taught this way. Efficiency and Effectiveness from day one. How and Why from day one.
I am always trying to LEARN more about what I don't know, and always from someone who knows more than I. Right or wrong, GM Sin The, and his students who first taught me, knew a lot more than I did when I started, and as far as I can tell a lot more than anything else available at the time. As more than one teacher said to me me about martial arts, don't criticize Karate, Judo, Tae Kwon Do, part of it is in what we all do, too. So, doing something, if not the best (who gets to go to the real Temple to train?), is still better than nothing, isn't it? Not everyone has the good fortune to be where the Schools you describe are, and have the opportunities you apparently have had and benefitted from.
I stand corrected if I don't know more about Tien Shien Pai than you do. I would be honored by you answering to me, here or by PM, the answers to your own prior 4 questions. It would of course test me and teach me at the same time, which you have no obligation to do. But that is the only reason I am "here" -- to learn more, or at least help others learn something I know that maybe they don't. Otherwise, this whole forum and everything like it is just "Guitar Hero."
And no one "wants" to eat "dog poop," they just don't know that's what it is, if that's what it is -- and in some cases that is in the eye of the beholder. I would benefit from your answers to your own questions, regardless of whether I agree with them, or even understand them, or not. Different perspectives are educational in themselves, aren't they?