More than one point is present in this paragraph.
Don't see much rolling in the 70's. . . in the USA.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=of1PP...eature=related
Turn the clock back to when Helio was studing and you'd see even more similarities.
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More than one point is present in this paragraph.
Don't see much rolling in the 70's. . . in the USA.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=of1PP...eature=related
Turn the clock back to when Helio was studing and you'd see even more similarities.
1) He mentioned this in reference to someone he knew and you didn't, who liked having to deal with unpredictable ways he was "getting out of things", not because of applying finishing techniques.
2) Speaking for people you don't know to diss their friends, aren't you fifty? Is it really cool to troll at your age?(It's a trick question, it's not.)
3) You don't have to live your whole life with short man syndrome. They're called lifts, buy some.
I did not say that. Addditionlly, KF's post is practically the definition of innovation, which I'm sure he'd agree with, when he isn't busy trolling kids.
Yes, I am wrong saying what I never said.Quote:
You are wrong here
Their focus just don't tend to be the same, that seems to be pretty fundamental.Quote:
and wrong when you say BJJ and judo are fundamentally different
Jesus, how many things have I said here without saying them?Quote:
or don’t share any similarities etc.
I get you on this one now, but it seems like the rules were made for the style, not the other way around. In otherwords, you were rewarded for following the focus of a preexisting style by the point system in order to ensure that practitioners could use that style. The style didn't sprout from the point system, the point system came from the style.Quote:
I don’t know wheat judo you watched in the 70's and 80's, I grew up on Brian jacks and Neil Adams and other judo guys who were great on the ground and used arm bars, triangle chokes etc. They look different because of the different rules (and to make this clear I mean judo scored heavily on the throw and limited ground work to a specific time frame and also banished certain grips, BJJ didn’t score heavily on the throw, did not limit ground work and did not stop innovations like new grips etc)
How is that not a fundamental difference? At best, using this, you could argue that bjj is a style of judo, but that still leaves it as distinct from the other styles.Quote:
hence one art concentrates on stand-up grips and throws, and the other on the ground work,
At this point, aside from having to answer things I never said, and arguing tangential points, I had completely forgotten about Brian Jacks, so thanks.
I was not bragging, I was talking about something Philbert reminded me of, how useful diverse training partners are and how, given time, most serious people will find that they can hold their own if they train their stuff realistically.
I know this is not as important as pretending this board is a forum solely for professionals who the rest should curtsey to, but you'll just have to live with that, old guy trolling teenagers.
Very nice of you external guys entertaining all us internals with such a large thread!
Thanks!
We appreciate it!
I lasted longer when I started out versus after a few months of training. The reason being because after a few months of training I realized that using brute force was not the best route and began to try techniques, all of which he knew the counters to.
I learned how to escape someone setting up an arm bar from a video clip and then applying it to class.Quote:
Watching something on you tube won't let you last any longer than not watching something on You Tube. That's like thinking you can watch some clips of bowling and then somehow be better at bowling.
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You can watch something all you want. Unless you are practicing it with people who actually know what they are doing, you won't be able to do it.
News to me, he didn't strike me as a larper. However, I am glad you are able to determine that he had absolutely no knowledge of knife work based upon a couple of lines of text. When I said he wore wrist guards, I don't mean a glove/wrist combination. Just 2 thick leather bracelets, and it didn't strike me as something a larper would wear.Quote:
LOL... a guy who wears leather straps on his wrist everywhere is a larper. The guy had no clue about knife work.
not entirely true - you can see changes in neuromuscular function based on passive observation; for example, if u test your hamstring lengths and then intently watch someone stretch their hamstrings, and retest yours after, you will have an increase in your own range; you can also just imagine yourself stretching your own hamstrings and get an increase in flexibility; this isn't voodoo, it's actually pretty straight forward neuromuscular physiology - in the same vein as how you can stretch or strengthen the more flexible or stronger side and see immediate gains in the tight and weaker side;
also, we know that one can improve a relatively complex motor skill such as making a jump shot by mental practice alone; therefore, one could conjecture that watching someone take a jump shot could imprint a motor pattern of that activity that could be reasonably replicated under certain parameters (repeated viewing, focused as opposed to casual observation); now, of course, this is not the same thing as performing a skilled activity in a contextually complex environment; meaning that visualizing a jump shot is not the same as taking a jump shot in a live game, analogous to performing a sprawl in a controlled vs. uncontrolled environment; however, it's also a matter of degree - if you take someone who his innately athletic, and has experience functioning in a random environment that isn't too dissimilar (which is certainly open to argument as to what constitutes similarity in motor skills), he could conceivably apply a given technique against a moderately skilled opponent, having only watched it; now, take the average guy with limited experience, and he might also be able to do the same, but of course, it would likely have to be against someone not that experienced; but the point is that given the connection between the neuromuscular and visual system, it's not completely inconceivable that skilled motor function can occur under certain conditions based purely on visual experience with that skill