5 Element Palm in Pak Mei
Hi there guys,
It's been a long time since I've posted anything on this forum.
However I have reading some of the posts that have been put on here.
Purely out of interest, who knows or has heard of this: "5 Element Palm form - Ng Hsing Mor Kiew Kuen" in the Pak Mei arts.
Like I said I've seen it floated around on here in various posts, and would be interested in anyone who could shed some light on this subject.
I believe that those of us in the Pak Mei Pai, know that the advanced forms are Sup Baa Mor Kiew Kuen & Man Fu Chut Lam. I'm just interested in finding out more information on this other form...
I look forward to hearing from some of you.
Re: Ng Hsing Mor Kiew / Sau
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Pakmei
[B]Well from my understanding of reading the various couplets, poems / songs of Pak Mei Pai, that my Sifu has given me.
The Pak Mei practitioners will know that practising the Tun To Fau Chum is for developing the iron shirt / body and in particular around the ribs.... hence the expanding and compressing of the ribcage when prastising.
So from this the Tun To Fau Chum, is cultivating to 4 internal powers of Pak Mei in accordance with the Lohk Geng (6 powers of the body).
To my mind then the "Ng Hsing Mor Kiew / Sau (Kuen)" is taking the internal stage of Pak Mei further. Apparently the Preist / Monk PAK MEI himself, was reputed for having the "Golden Bell Cover".
So would it be by fusing the 5 elements of the body as one (Jing, Qi, Jin Ye, Xue, Shen - Essence, Energy, Body Fluids, Blood & Spirit) by various Taoist / Buddhist Breathing exercises, this "Ng Hsing Mor Kiew / Sau (Kuen)" is strengthening the Yang Fu (Internal Organs) to be able to withstand strikes executed with internal power.
Pak mei-
Actually, all the chinese martial arts are made within the five elements theory. Ask any chinese martial artist or very knowledgeable person. They will tell you all the martial arts are made within the theory of five elemnts.
Five elements doesn't belongs to pak mei family only. It also belongs to Southern Tong long. It also belongs to Choy Lay Fat.
The origin of all martial arts are Taoist. Thus, the theory of taoist applies to all chinese martial arts. The buddhist is not the orignator of chinese martial arts.
If you search in Yahoo.com, about five elements theory. The japanese karate also has their version of five elements theory. The japanese karate is a derivative of chinese martial arts. Thus, japanese karate also agrees with five elements and tao of yin and yang.
It is the expression of five elements, which is different than all of us. If there is a chinese martial artist here in this forum. I am sure he will agree.
Existence of form in Vietnamese lineage
The 5 elements/animals form is present in vietnamese lineage of Pei Mei. It comes after Tiger exits forest. (There are other forms as well that come after Tiger Exits forest).
I have not learnt it or seen it.
As far as I can tell from my research and what I have been told, this form has existed for a long time in PM at least since 1930s as Tsang Hu Bac is said to have practiced it when he left CLC in 1931 and came to Vietnam.
I cannot give any hard evidence for 100% certainty. Some students of CLC did travel to Vietnam between 1930s and 1950s and may have brought it with them. So until this doubt is resolved I remain at 80% certainty that it is authentic form.
However I would go against the theory written here concerning interpretation relating to iron bell.
As previous threads have shown, I to have been taught that 5 elements theory is just a common structure of older Southern schools and is a useful "manual" to pull together allt he threads of any Southern style. Many of these schools' most advanced forms deal with a name of 5 elements.
I would also agree that the reference to 5 animals/elements on Pei Mei insignia is proof enough that this theory was integrated into PM, and that it shows the connection of PM to both Taoist traditions (as many martial arts have) and to the Shaolin tradition.
Regards,
EAZ