What have you completely thrown out of your catalog?
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What have you completely thrown out of your catalog?
honestly - Lion Dancing.
Any technique done in contemporary wushu. Anything to do with hitting pressure points or dim mak. Any technique claiming to stop the heart, cause internal bleeding or shatter bone into a million pieces.
Techniques we can do away with:
The techniques that leave the arm extended after a punch.
5-hit combos that you perform on your opponent while is arm his extended after a punch.
I have personally done away with using any form of striking stationary stakes like they do in ba gua or like when Jet Li was hitting all those balls away doing tai chi. I have done away with using any form of wooden dummy because practicing your footwork on something stationary is pointless when your opponents move around.
why did you give up lion dancing?Quote:
honestly - Lion Dancing.
Very true. I was talking about from a footwork point of view and not a conditioning one.
I was told once that you strike a bunch of posts and keep moving because this symbolizes fighting multiple opponents. This is the kind of stuff I get rid of in my training. If you say it makes your hands harder fine but do not say this will prepare you in case of a massive jailbreak.
There is a technique I was taught, a circular scissors like block followed with an upward swing under the armpit, kinda like chyun pow, but instead of uppper cut at the end was more of an upward swinging forearm/longarm, that, for one application, was intended to disrupt/dislocate another person's shoulder. It seems like it could never work to me, at least with any practical efficiency. Although I practice the movement in form, I have more or less thrown that out of anything I want to draw from.
Masterkiller loves butterfly palms!
I think I can live without the butterfly kick.
Spear hands.
every style/school has there core or basic moves.
keep drilling them daily.
never ever have to worry about "advanced" stuff.
stick with your basic. that is.
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Thats one subject really not touched here on the forum. Lion Dancing does indeed contribute things like mobile footwork and even combat if you know how to look at it right. but, out here in the SF bay area, the lion heads would be equipped with butterfly knives and if a lion fight took place, out came the butterfly swords.Quote:
we got more real fight experience from lion dancing downtown on chinese new years against other schools than we got all year at cr@ppy tournaments
If you are internal, posturing is everything. lots of standing in posture.
If you are external, moving fast and faster is more important.
spend your time the way you want
for me lots of posturing
and lots of moving steps, too.
basic moves are your backbones, tactics and strategy are your meat or muscle.
can not do away with one without the other.
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Hmmm... Probably gonna get flamed for this, but...
Uppercuts. Since I frequently do a lot of bareknuckle fighting, I find these just a little too risky. I've hurt my hands a number of times doing them. I substitute them with a shovel hook. Better angle for me. It probably has something to do with my long forearms.
I use them when I have gloves on though.
Burn him!!!!
If... she... weighs... the same as a duck,... she's made of wood.
butterfly kick in MMA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o9M5...layer_embedded
That was more of a cart wheel.
I'm going to agree to the Sanjuro quote.
I've got a few conditioning exercises I use, included one LKFMDC posted a few years ago involving fishing weights.
In the past year, I've been in the position where I had to use a spear hand because, simply put, I do not have the striking power, nor did I then, to put the guy trying to do me harm down.
Was outweighed by ~80 pounds, aggressor was solid muscle, about three or four inches taller than me.
Spear hand let me make distance, change his level, then get the f*ck out of dodge before he got his feet back under him.
Was combination of the conditioning, my aim, and dumb luck that he leaned into it.
Come to think of it, all the self defense situations I've been in have involved open hand stuff - maybe we should drop fists?
Years ago, I did away with the low spinning leg sweep (sao tang tuei) because, although I could do it, I never had the confidence to try it again after I saw a classmate in Taiwan attempt it in sparring, and the other guy jumped up to avoid it and accidentally landed on his extended knee.
Every thing is in context.
1 San shou: you drill a few moves that work for you and drop the rest. Without breaking the rules that is.
2 street: use common sense and weapon. Call 911 and run and cover. No need to duke it out.
3 basic basic and basic. You may not drop that. They are your bread and butter.
4 standing in postures. Do them at your leisure. Drop some time in them is al rite.
What to keep and what to drop?
The basic and as need to use basis.
Haven't gotten rid of anything really. Just don't do some stuff so much any more.
I can still Lion Dance, but I don't for example, but if someone wanted to know what it was how to do it what it means etc, I still have it.
Out of the martial arts itself. Nothing. I still have pretty much everything I learned although I don't use a lot of it. If I see a need to pull it out for some reason, I always can.
Quite frankly, there just aren't a lot of people who know much traditional kung fu and they get less and less every year.
So, I'm not throwing anything away. lol
I never did learn anything that was throw away. Nothing that was not absolutely useful. I do Hung Fa Wing Chun and Japanese Jiujitsu, which contains very little stuff that should be dispensed with. Both are systems that can be learned effectively and will remain with you all your life. Most of this other silly stuff will outlast you. In other words, you get old and can't do it any more. Then it is worthless again. Learn something that doesn't take a million forms and half a million years to learn. Something you don't have to torture and cripple your body in order to perform for so short a time.
When I was a young person, we had a series of posts in the back yard. We had a tire business and ended up with a lot of small tires. We dropped the tires over the posts and on tires that were about chest high we ran round wooden dowels through to give them arms like the Jong. We would use these for footwork training as well as fighting multiple assailants. Slipping about amongst these posts in order to develop the footwork and at the same time we were able to apply a lot of kick and punch techniques.
There is a great advantage to having to fight several men in a dark alley as they have to be careful who they hit but you don't.