a quick little side question
not to take away from this post, but what builds chi?
Maoshan said this...
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The tai Chi form by itself will build no chi. It’s great as a conductor, but not as a builder. Thus you have the auxiliary exercises, in particular the Qi-Gong.
What type of auxiliary exercises do you mean and am I correct in assuming that you (Maoshan) think these "auxiliary exercises, in particular the Qi-Gong" are what build chi? What does everyone else think?
Just wondering.
Tai Chi Experts where was they Chi?
Thanks Fiercest tiger. Also I like your post.
Here is some thing for You Tai Chi Chi fighters go to:http://members.tripod.com/%7Ecrane69/index6d.htm
This guy have a article with pictures of Tai Chi Expersts getting beatdown" by Professional Muay Thai fighters.
My Question to you Tai Chi guys is? Where was these Tai Chi Expersts pushhand skills or chi power LOL."
Where was the Neutralizing skills or they explosive energy that Tai Chi is said to have to end a fight?
Bottom line if you are not training real Kung fu, you end up just like them Tai Chi Expersts, if you ever met a real Martial artists that trains old school. (Body Conditioning and Impact Training.)
Peace
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sifu i left your # at home
i will touch base with you during the week-end
ill be in the studio from midnight till wednesday morning.
its cold out there! time to up the jing levels lol
peace
Just telling you where I stand thats All.
{Wow so much anger,
I have no anger. I'm just telling you my opinion, and where I stand.
{If its as you say “fighting” mmm I don’t know my kung fu includes brick fu, chair fu, anything that I can use fu. I’m from the city the few fights that I have seen and been in had no rules. Run fu works well too!!!
Where in any of my statements I talk about rules. Fighting is fighting where I'm from. Noboby cares about if you know Tai Chi . pushhands, Chi or whatever." Bottom line is, you better know how to use it. There are no rules in any real fight no matter where a person is from. And Yes I had to utilize Run Fu a few times in my Life. I'm no master. "
{My point is that TC is supposed to be able to swallow and spit, what I have found is that if I make my body like a little tank then my tendency is to use force against force. Why would I need to develop such ting jin (listening) skills if I don’t need it.
Thats your opinion,and you have a right to your belief. But I stand by my viewpoints. Most tai Chi practitioners can't fight." Intill someone prove me wrong I stand by opinion.
{As I’ve said before I’m not here to prove anything to anybody only to share a point that I have arrived at in my own training
I never ask you to prove anything I just welcome you to met up with me in New York so I can see you utilize this Chi you are talking about. Thats all no beef."
{ Where I push in the park if you use force you can get hurt by your own force. Seen it, felt it, know it
You can't hurt a person if you can't detected they force. And Who to say Your opponent is going to use all yang." I know I'm not."
{The first week in my TC class in HI, I asked if this stuff would really work, and was bounced off a wall by one of the older students.
Maybe you need to develop Root? But Every New student get Bounced nothing esoteric about it in any way. A normal thing when a person don't know the Tai Chi game." :) "RELAXATION."
{If having an iron body was such a skill why spend so much time standing and walking around in a circle?
I never said anything about Iron body skill. I live in the real world. Where a person have to train for real. Real fights have real full contact. There are many ways of handing out punishment to your opponent and only two ways of taking it, badly or like a pro. I think I like to take it like a pro." Conditioning in my mind have nothing to do with any Iron body.
but have to do with absorbing some impact. Every real fighter knows you will get hit in a fight. And If you are not use to absorbing some punishment then you are good as dead, and thats the genuine true. No Chi kung or Pushhands is going to save your ass."
{why spend so much time standing and walking around in a circle?
Answer: 1. DISCIPLINE -BUILDING STRENGTH WITH AWARENESS(YI) NOTHING MORE.
{Train to your level of usage, but know your ability. Many don’t.
I know my Ability, and many in the so-called internal are not up to my ability.
[test it until it works, and if it dosn't (och!! damm that hurt) find out why. keep training until you can do it or find another art that you understand.
Been there did that with many internal teachers, I know the true way of internal Training. And I understand There is no mystical and invisible power. Chi is practical practice, not some mystical chi bull$hit.
{hey this is only a BBS, just here to share and offer some views
I feel the same way, but I going to be Practical with my views.
peace. :cool: