i have had two minor altercations
since i started to ponder how to make my kung fu kung fu and not kickboxing
the two scraps i didnt intend and they were based
on some1 i knew but didnt expect.
on the kf forum theres a post talking about freezing in combat "just the whole wtf is going on"
the second time the person was basicaly drunk and i found myself consciously talking to myself
;jiminy crickets all dont hit him-try to submit and calm him down"
now related to khong and fridays post
it wouldnt be to healthy to engage in streetfights---but to get past certain barriers'such as freezing,one would need somesort of psychological training---any ideas on that from modern day science of warfare perspective.
also any of you guys who can trace thier lineage back in the tibetan related arts,do you have any tips on these thoughts from the ancients.
Re: training against 'freezing'
hi diego,
if you would like I will ask my sifus in Pak Hok Pai this question and see what they think.
I can't guarantee this is 'traditional methods'though. :)
888
FRIDAY THAT WOULD BE GREAT
khong you need to respectfully pick at your teacher for whats the deal with hop ga and ng-ming.
Friday i have a strange art that in some way claims ng-yim-ming
basically it is kajukenbo/hopgar with mantis and what i hear some internal style concepts but im not to clear yet...
do you have or could you ask your seniors if they have any storys or detials on fellows who have mixed thier tibetan art with another..
im in a funny predicament, i have home video of the 13 sets and i know 6 of them with a good idea of the rest...when i was taught it was all aplication but i got the gist of the system because thier is no basics in this method its all to the point killing technique..
i contacted the senior who inherited the art from his friend and teacher,but the teacher was killed
and i was shown more then i should have been in respects to time spent in chronological skill development.....so im not a authority but i have a good idea........I THINK
i definatly understand the combat mind and the differance between a rush of fear adrenaline and anger adrenaline,wich helps greatly in the inhale/exhale of your methods...
just a little question and bio.
ego you have A and thats A odea what your are thinking but you have this tone of cynicism however unconscious,it seems your point is to get fellow posters riled up and not simply to use the greek philosophy method of arguement to build further discourse uno break through certain personall barriers to bring out the light
imo not very humble you seem bored on this board.
ENJOY YOUR WAFFLES.
Hop-Gar with other styles
diego,
A British Si-Fu, Steve Richards has published a book on a combined Hop-Gar Mantis System:
Hop-Gar Mantis Kung Fu
Published by Paul H Crompton
London UK
Publishers e-mail CROMPTONPH@aol.com (for details).
It is Jook-Lum SPM with a branch of Hop-Gar deriving from Chan-Fat-Fu who is well known in HK for his Choy-Lay-Fut. Chan was a personal friend of Harry Ng-Yim-Ming and is a friend also of GM Ku-Chi-Wai.
Chan's forms are different to those found in most other branches they include: Sei-Lo-Fun-Dar (Four Way Separate Attack), Tau-Dar (Stealing the Attack) and Wai-Tor Luk-Lo (The Six Ways of Abbot Wai-Tor).
Chan keeps his 'Lion's Roar' as he calls it to himself these days but in the early 1970's a student of his Lau-Char-Chu who was the Self-Defence instructor to the High Security Stanley Prison Staff in HK taught it openly.
GM Ku has seen Steve Richards on video and commented that he can see some Choy-Lay-Fut influences in it. maybe that's to be expected.
Steve is writing another book, published by New Breed in the UK called 'Tibetan Kung-Fu: the Lion's Roar'. It's due out next year sometime I think.
hey barefoot have you seen that style
one of the techniques that best exemplifies:
agianst r punch,
sidestep to the left in a left side facing adduction stance"l mantis stance,r heel up"
right grab and left claw to face.
the left hand hooks opponents right arm and wipes to the left while the right foot steps into the right then the left foot triangle shuffle steps to the left in a right crane stance and the l hand flings back while the right straight punches the solar plexus......."JUST BASIC GRAB STRIKE SIDESTEP-SHUFFLE'IN WIPE AWAY AND STRIKE.
also im going to order that book asap
do you have any keywords i did a quick 2minute search on altavista,typed in sifu steve richards and chan-fat-fu and got to many sifu names..
can you think of related links,they must have students who built thier own private pages.
ONE THING that would be good
is if those willing could share the gist of thier fighting methods,based on the old lions roar principle sayings.....wich i dont know.
i would be willing to take the most signifying aspects of my techniques and post online....
i mean its know big deal its just text, i feel it would create continuos historical discussion;
wich we all can agree its hard to find open info on lions roar'related.
so i'l start with a basic i notice the major method in my style is to evade/stun-set off balance and knock-out....like the tech i described in my other post..a simple variation of that would be to sidestep to your left and r outward grab and r sidekick to shin or knee--r steps into opp in a r horse and l presses shoulder and r 2bigknuckles to temple. we use that alot the drop into horse and smother shoulder and temple or back of head shot.
maybe we could share competition training,relatable endurance conditioning drills etc,all to build further discourse in this forum..get all the tibets out the woodwork.
although as of now im teacherless until i can get to montreal,i have a good idea of the fighting strategie. for the hop frame
WHAT STYLE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT
were speakn on tibetan arts and most the arts when i look at what i learnt would have been used by bodygaurds......thats a good post
any of you guys have info on the lama bodygaurds
i red they were in range of over 6 feet tall in general they would shave half thier head and let the other side pony tail,i think they were like a class in tibet society...probably almost similar to a pirate/samurai
any idea's
EGO WATCH OUT YOUS'E BOUT TO GET BANNED....
yeah they also dyed the shaved side red
and were heavy drinkers??? with knives stashed all throughout thier sash.
freakin ego making me forget my purpose
hey barefoot i couldnt find any pictures but the book asap,hehe
i was watching home video of the main guy of my style and the second and first form i remarked heavily reminds me of the pheonix eye book of the hakka uno the book i cant remember the title its new uno..
ya like when we learn its very low stance
"""do you know kajukenbo,or any idea!!""
from the kaju it makes the hopga attitude put into the midrange from the kaju,wich is original kenpo hawaii ghettoe fighting big american service men & samoans---so its very much the attitude of a hunga/bak mei from what i can see.....;all in the mid range""ive been up all night""
so we learn the stances low always in form,
but in midrange we sit in horse and do 2-3 single hand rolling techniques,sometimes if u hammer the groin before dragon claw to face both from the lead hand you can rear palm or flick the face.INBETWEEN EACH SEGMENT'BUT U ALOT WE DO MOMENTUM SNAP/FLOWS'LIKE SPEAR THE ARMPIT THEN RIDGE STRIKE SIDE OF HEAD THEN ROLL BACKFIST TO GRILL ALL WITH SLIGHT SHUFFLE STEP,ETC......"""NICE LITTLE CODES SPECIALLY TAILOR MADE FOR EGO'S ILK//HEHE"""
IN THE VIDEO HES WEAARING 70S JEANS AND COWBOY BOOTS WITH A LEATHER JACKET AND THE SECOND set is 8 sections of 8 attackers from each flank and infront all above you....doesnt really get into the pakua steps until the 7th set...
so hes all upright in a light horse! it reminded me off hakka...
but im sure thier differant because he was raised in the phillippines and mastered those particular famous methods so thier is alot of slight angulation on the inside game
hope this makes sence i'm off to sleep
EGO FORREALL U GONNA GET BANNED
WE BE HAVING CONFERANCES ON YOUR INADEQUECY....
2 MORE VOTES YA OUTIE CAPEESH!!!!!!?.,
S
Re: establishing a network
Hi Barefoot Mantis,
Hope you won't mind about this but I would prefer this idea to be kept with our 'generation' for the moment. i will post my email address soon. hope you can send me yours when i do.
thanks
888