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if bruce lee were still alive. things would surely be different.
im sure the whole face of MMA would be different.
MMA is basically on hybrid creation spawned from the ideals of bruce lee. a different direction was totally taken, however, if bl were still around. im sure he would have been a major pioneer in training fighters for this type of venue.
the evolution of MMA may have been drastically different from what took place.
a lot of the JKD *******ization wouldnt be around. clarification would be in place for sure, as well as, most likely, a fully evolved and structured art would be present. led by the one who created it.
and last but not least. there would be one hard core old dude kickin it.
I think he would have grown more as a martial artist and a movie star.
Here is a thought, perhaps he would have changed his views on traditional styles....maybe we would even have Jeet Kune Do forms!
He'd learn the complete wing chun system before making "improvements".
oh yeah, and he'd pay the triad to put a hit on David Carradine.
I heard that Dano Inosanto travelled to Hong Kong to learn more Wing Chun.
...and we'd all be doing MMA.
Are you joking or are you serious?
he would have stopped teaching martial arts many years ago, if he were still alive. he would have found a different vehicle for self expression.
To an extent, I'm serious. After all, Kung Fu really is MMA (a combination of different styles) when you think about it. I believe the face of kung fu would be different today Had Bruce Lee lived.
Dont' get me wrong, I don't think that MMA would be your standard UFC stuff either.
It's pretty much common knowledge that Bruce's philosophies on martial arts evolved and were reflected in his movies. Take the opening scene from "Enter the Dragon" where Bruce is fighting Samo. In the end, the fight goes to the ground and he taps Samo out.
This was a demonstration of the characters well rounded fighting ability. This of course is what Bruce considered to be a well rounded fighter as well.
So, (this is speculation) had Bruce lived, I would have expected him to incorporate some kind of grappling in his JKD concepts. Due to his popularity, this, (again speculation) could have forced other arts to embrace the same. Changing the face of kung fu.
Would all of this happened, it's hard to say. It's pretty obvious that Bruce was ahead of his time though. It would ahve been interesting, that's for sure.
if Bruce were alive today......
then Chief Fox wouldn't be looking for the Iron Monkey :)
He'd learn forms. Possibly because he would through research and discovery, eventually understand what it really is all about. He would see that mo-wai is simply a product of good training, and that every Martial Art can get you there, if taught the way it was originally intended, and would close every JKD school in the world.
he'd be a lot older, somewhere around 65 or so years old.
if he was still alive today.
while he was alive, he was constantly changing what he thought about martial arts and still gleaning what he could from a bunch of different sources.
who knows what he would have come up with by this point in time.
IMO, he would perfect the art of chi blasts and no touch KO's and prove all the naysayers wrong.
he would have his own line of designer tracksuits, and nike sneakers.
His brother would have an album deal.
He would have his own cartoon show and action figures.
He would be doing Hei Gung, and i full agree with Chief Fox post!
That being said they should have a Bruce Lee MMA Comp they have to wear the black hot pants and gloves out of enter the dragon , which is similar to MMA gloves!!
:p
If Bruce lee was still alive..........,
Well,
Jackie chan, jet li & leung ting might not be as famous(ya, $ too) as they are today.
Alot of grandmasters, forms & new MA sects wouldn't be seen.
JKD will be more perfect with more contents such as......maybe with the muay thai's kicks & ground grapplings added.
May be his wife will divorce him over his love affairs with other woman(women) & ask for a huge sum of money.
Bruce will be very sad to attend to his own son's funeral. :(
but would brandon lee even have died if bruce were alive? would all the intricate matters have unfolded exactly the same to cause brandons death??
Jason Scott Lee would be waiting on tables.
in a perfect world...
he would have moved into directing and producing, like most creative types do, and pushed the envelope on MA films; talents like Jackie Chan, Sammo Hung, Yun Biao, Jet Li would still have done what they did, but who can say how they would have been influenced by a still alive, ever-evolving guy like Bruce - perhaps they would have collaborated...
he would have kept developing JKD: keeping to what works, "absorbing what was useful" - he may have greatly acelerated the MMA "revolution" - I'm sure he'd have spent time with the Gracie's when they showed up...
he would have continued his exploration of philosophy, probably practiced some sort of meditation like Ch'an and wold have probably written about it as well
he would have been a tireless advocate for Asians in mainstream cinema
he would have been involved in charity work
he would have smacked Ralph Machio up and down the street like the poodle he is...
then again, he may have burned out, chucked it all and would now be living on some desolate tropical island, sucking mangos on the beach...
Greetings,
You guys have it all wrong. It is hard to believe that, with all the training that you have under your belts, that you all still dare to dream.
Bruce Lee was a REALIST, gentlemen. He called it the WAY he saw it. He TOOK no prisoners. He lived FULLY.
Kepping this in mind,
If Bruce Lee was still alive...........
he would be screaming, "Get me the FUCCK out of this GODDAM casket!!!!"
mickey
If Bruce Lee had still lived he would have had his rematch with Wong Jack Man in about 1974. Of course, just the fact that they agreed to have a rematch proves that Bruce had a great deal of respect for Grandmaster Wong's skills (by the way, "Dragon, the Bruce Lee story" is a pile of cr*p). Whatever people want to think about how this would've gone, consider this: both men were constantly developing their skills. Wong went hardcore into the internal arts and Bruce was doing more grappeling and other experimenting (still mostly "external" stuff).
It surely wouldn't have been a match to the death since both men knew each other pretty well by that point. But it would have been interesting to see. Interesting note: in two films of Lee I've seen him do the same double jump kick, rear twisted kick, tornadoe kick combination that's in Bak Siu Lum form #5 (martial skill). Bak Siu Lum was, of course, Wong Jack Man's style and Bruce didn't start showing off by doing those kicks at conventions until after his first match with Sifu Wong. Just an interesting little point of fact.
if he was alive....he may of learnt the error of his ways, and dropped his arrogant and sometimes misguided views on martial arts and of matured enough to of returned to internal martial arts........possibly lol!
If bruce lee were still alive, he would have undergone a sex change operation, moved to idaho, and would now have a vested intrest in one of the largest ostrich farms in the united states. Bruce, or 'Mimi', as he would now prefer to be called, would ride a scooter around the town square every sunday to peddle the farm wares. The scooter would have a large cowbell attached which attracts customers. A mob of excited children would routinely gather around and he would give them ice cream.
If Bruce Lee were still alive, he'd be clawing at the inside of his coffin trying to get out... :eek:
he would have aged considerably by the time the first ufc came around, but I'm sure he would endorse it! Maybe he would have turned into a born again and then converted to karate.
Hey, let's clone Bruce Lee, Count Dante, Mushashi, Chin Siu Hung, Bak Mei and some other dead masters, expose them to all the martial styles available today, and see what they do. A great mad martial scientist experiment.:)
if Bruce Lee were alive he'd be judging or producing a Reality Show or he'd be a pitch man for infomercials. :eek:
Maybe he'd have an energy drink like Steven Seagal.
Chan Tai San would have killed him in 1989.
The end.
salutations, everyone. new here to the boards.
if bruce was alive, he probably would still be acting. after the success with enter the dragon and the success with game of death (after completion) he would go back to the states to make another movie. probably after that, he would finally get a television deal and finally make "the warrior". even though "kung fu" was successful that was set in the old west, "the warrior" would probably be set during modern times (hence television series already made "kung fu: the legend continues"). i would say three years of "the warrior" television series. then another probably star in another movie then he would probably finally put out a finalized book about jeet kune do. i would say, if he were alive, he would probably change everything of what is jeet kune do now and find an efficient way to fight. he would probably change "jeet kune do" to something else because he knows everything will keep on changing. he would stay out of the spot light for a few years and have his own big production company. he would direct "the crow" starring his son Brandon Lee. from that point, he would go back to hong kong. there he can make television and movies for asian market and american market. he would write books on philosophy and his new named art. he would stop doing movies and live off the rest of his life doing guest appearances and instead of ernie hosting "final fu" on mtv, bruce would host it and make it more interesting. after that, he would write and direct game of death 2, his final movie.
i could go on and on but hey...this is only if he was alive.
thanks for reading
If Bruce Lee were still alive, I'd use my gung fu to kill him. I doubt he would have ever gotten around to learning real gung fu - he was just a movie star.
youd actually want to kill bruce lee?
you actually think you could kill bruce lee?
interesting...
what is your definition of real kung fu? because i would like to know what type of kung fu bruce lee was suppose to learn.
but no one would be saying these things if he was still alive straight to his face now would we.
well yea i agree if he was still alive not many people would be saying stuff like that about him..dont think he would be the type to call names on the net(unlike so so many)he would probably just have a sparring match or fight to prove his worth,then goodbye teeth...show some respect for one of the martial arts greatest men,wouldnt be much wing chun and definitely no jkd around if it wasnt for him...
Bruce Lee was a poseur!!
Whataaaaaa!! Whaaaaa! Ohwwwa-waaa!!:eek: :eek: :eek:
Like previous posts said, he'd have found his way back to forms. (what else can ya practice at age 65?)
Yeah, so what I stole his footwork. Many have fallen prey to it. B!@tches!!:p
I would not only say it to his face, I would immediately start throwing kicks and punches at him. Hoping that he would try and parry so I could bridge, and WHAATAAH!! his ass straight back to Hollywood!! Why do people think he was such an indestructable fighter?!?!? He rarely got into any real fights and as Joe Lewis said (when comparing a tournament to a swim meet), "here's a guy who never swam and never even showed up to a meet." He made some cool movies, that's it. He would have a lot of trouble dealing with the reach I would have on him (him being 5'7" and me being 6'3" and all).:cool:Quote:
originally posted by pac_zao
interesting...
what is your definition of real kung fu? because i would like to know what type of kung fu bruce lee was suppose to learn.
but no one would be saying these things if he was still alive straight to his face now would we.
I would have gotten my green belt in jkd, and been upgraded to the Black Belt Club. He then would have his program director call me up two months later and have me cash out my program and/or upgrade to the Master's Club, where i can then learn the double nunchaku form.
Imight then be eledgable for the intsructor's program, or perhaps an opportunity to invest in a franchise.