Just A Little Info About The US Military

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/...,2956277.story

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Anne K. Ream's recent Op-Ed sheds much needed light on how the U.S. military continues to trivialize rape and sexual assault committed by members of the armed forces. Writing about whether a man who is convicted of rape in a civilian court should still be entitled to a traditional military funeral, Ream points out that although barring full honor burials in such a situation is largely a symbolic act, "the military policy of allowing honors burials for veterans convicted of rape sends a chilling message to victims: Even the most heinous sexual violence does not trump prior military service."

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Hmmmm... so convicted rapists are afforded full military honors.....

http://www.aztlan.net/latinas_us_military_raped.htm

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Rape within the U.S. Military: 1 in 3 women service members sexually assaulted at least once

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1 in 3!!!!! And no one does anything about it

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NOBLESVILLE, Ind.] – Investigators say he picked out teens and young women with backgrounds that made them vulnerable to authority. As a military recruiter, he had access to personal information, making the quest easier.

Indiana National Guard Sgt. Eric P. Vetesy, 36, Westfield, was jailed Monday, accused of sexually assaulting six female recruits – most of them Noblesville High School students – he met during his 18 months as a full-time recruiter. Hamilton County investigators said Monday he is accused of raping at least one recruit.

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Not surprising

http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-b...0090303zg.html

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The bulk are petty offenses, but in one of the most notorious cases, a 12-year-old schoolgirl was raped and left for dead by three U.S. serviceman on the southern island of Okinawa, reluctant home to the bulk of U.S. military facilities in Japan. That 1995 crime shook the half-century alliance, sparking huge anti-US rallies and cries of "never again." The pleas were ignored: Last year a 14-year-old was sexually assaulted by a U.S. Marine, one of several similar attacks on Japanese and Filipino women.

Protests forced the U.S. military recently to set up a "sexual assault prevention unit." Opponents say, however, that the incidents are an inevitable consequence of transplanting young and often traumatized trained killers (many of the soldiers are veterans of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars) among a local population they neither know nor respect. "There will be no peace here until the military is gone," says Okinawa anti-base campaigner Rev. Natsume Taira.

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And it just keeps going...I could show many more examples of the military in action.

Isn't it time someone spoke for the victims?

Funny. I personally saw a guy go down for many MANY years for consensual sex that later became rape because she regretted having sex with him. In fact, I dare you to do a bit of research and see who is more protected... civilian or military.

And I'm also pretty sure you didn't know that the maximum penalty for rape in the military is DEATH, and I'm absolutely positive you aren't aware of mandatory sexual assault courses soldies have to take, and I also know that you don't even know the protections for rape victims in the military as opposed to the civilian world.

Only a moron would read a news article and suddenly pretend they know how the military works.

So in his eyes rape is bad, but physically assaulting women is ok. :rolleyes:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/07/31/military.sexabuse/

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"My jaw dropped when the doctors told me that 41 percent of the female veterans seen there say they were victims of sexual assault while serving in the military," said Harman, who has long sought better protection of women in the military.
"Twenty-nine percent say they were raped during their military service. They spoke of their continued terror, feelings of helplessness and downward spirals many of their lives have taken since.
"We have an epidemic here," she said. "Women serving in the U.S. military today are more likely to be raped by a fellow soldier than killed by enemy fire in Iraq."

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Hmmm………I’m having trouble telling who the terrorists are here.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/...n4872713.shtml

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The Pentagon released a disturbing report Tuesday on sexual abuse in the military, saying that more than 2,900 sexual assaults were reported last year, up nearly 9 percent from the year before. Nearly two-thirds of the cases involved rape or aggravated assault.

The Pentagon only started a comprehensive program to track incidents in 2006, and only after Congress mandated it do so.

That year there were 2,974 cases of rape and sexual assault across the services. And of those, only 292 cases resulted in a military trial.

And in 2007 there were even fewer prosecutions.

“Of more than 2,200 servicemen investigated for sexual assault, only 181 were prosecuted?” Couric asked Dominguez.

“Yes, …….

And in a majority of cases, the punishment doesn't seem to match the crime. Often most offenders only get a reduction in rank or reduced pay.

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A reduce in pay……I guess in their twisted minds this is cheaper than going to a hooker.

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0206-30.htm

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The Marine who was caught on camera executing a wounded Iraqi prisoner in Fallujah was quickly relieved of duty, and his commanding officers promised to investigate the incident. But according to war correspondent Evan Wright, who observed similar killings when he was embedded with a Marine unit during the initial invasion of Iraq, such executions are common practice.
"One thing military officials are not saying is that the behavior of the Marine in the video closely conforms to training that is fairly standard in some units," Wright reported recently in the Village Voice. "Marines call executing wounded combatants 'dead-checking.' "

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Wow! He kills a man and he’s “relieved of duty”…….Bet that won’t happen again.:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Drake

Only a moron would read a news article and suddenly pretend they know how the military works.

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Oh NO! It's the return of the "you don't understand! You didn't serve!" arguement by the angry lifer.


Next we will probably hear the "well opinions differ" defense if someone who did serve in the military agrees with an anti-military sentiment!


I'd prefer just to put it very simply. "If you serve, you are WRONG.".

If you are a lifer.. then you are making a career out of WRONG.

Yep! Unless you're a fox you have no right to complain about the chickens dying in the henhouse.

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Originally Posted by dimethylsea

Oh NO! It's the return of the "you don't understand! You didn't serve!" arguement by the angry lifer.

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I don't recall Drake saying that. He stated experience he had himself has seen/had in the military though.

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Originally Posted by dimethylsea

Oh NO! It's the return of the "you don't understand! You didn't serve!" arguement by the angry lifer.

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Drake doesn't seem to be the angry one here.....

I don't know about Drake but when I read that 41% of our females in the military are sexually assaulted I get dam angry.

Imagine, the 41% is just the number that reported the crime. One can just imagine the number of cases that go unreported.

Also if the military assaults 41% of their own fellow soldiers just imagine the attitude they have towards young girls in second and third world countries. They don't even see them as being human.

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Originally Posted by BoulderDawg

I don't know about Drake but when I read that 41% of our females in the military are sexually assaulted I get dam angry.

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But when a guy admits to assaulting a woman, you make excuses for him.

Hypocrite

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Originally Posted by 1bad65

But when a guy admits to assaulting a woman, you make excuses for him.

Hypocrite

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I thought you said it was me that supported violence against women? You've been going around this board posting that every chance you get.

Of course you have no facts to back that up. total lie......used as a smear....however the people who post here know the truth of that.

I have actual reports here of many, many women being assaulted by the American military..........none of that concerns you?

http://www.stopfamilyviolence.org/in...in-us-military

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The military is increasingly issuing something called "moral waivers," so they can enlist military personnel with felony convictions for crimes like rape and sexual assault.

“We don’t enlist convicted rapists in the armed forces of the United States,” said Michael Dominguez, the principal under secretary of defense for personnel and readiness. “If there’s a consensus 'that kid needs a second chance, I think he’s got it in him to be a solider,’ then they’ll let him into the armed forces.”

In fact, CBS News has learned that both the Army and Marine Corps did issue a number of "moral waivers" to enlistees with felony convictions for rape and sexual assault - something not acknowledged in a follow-up letter from Dominguez.

But it's not just who enters the military, it's how sex offenders are ultimately punished by the Command.

“We have documents showing that a private convicted of rape, who had a bad conduct discharge suspended so he could deploy to Iraq,” Couric told Dominguez. “How could the U.S. military allow a convicted criminal to go back into a situation where he could easily rape again?”

“I’m not familiar with this particular case,” Dominguez replied

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So they knowingly allow rapists into the military.......

http://www.worldcantwait.net/index.p...rs-and-rapists

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"There are only three things the guys let you be if you're a girl in the military - a btch, a ho, or a dyke."

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What a surprise!

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapc...ape/index.html

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(CNN) -- Investigators in Japan are investigating a second reported sexual assault connected to the U.S. military, police said Thursday.

Investigators said they are looking into allegations that a member of the U.S. Army raped a Filipino woman on the island of Okinawa.

Last week, police detained a U.S. Marine in the alleged rape of a 14-year-old girl on Okinawa -- a case that has stirred outrage across Japan.

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It just keeps going on and on and nothing is ever done about it.

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Originally Posted by BoulderDawg

It just keeps going on and on and nothing is ever done about it.

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Sounds like Wardchurchill's lies and his physical assaults on his wives.

1bad.

do you work for the republican party or something?

boulder dawg

do you work for the democratic party or something?

Do you guys realize that except for occasional interjections from others like myself, you have both been giving each other the old digital hand job for more than a year now?

Where do you find the time to waste so much time on such meaningless drivel in of all places a kungfu forum!

It's just weird. lol :p

BD will NEVER see the world through your eyes 1bad and you cannot see the world through his.

Why do you waste so much energy on each other. IN the end, you are both defeated by your own folly. Which is delicious for some of us who love to watch a good flaming nose dive on a daily basis, which both of you so adamantly supply!

anyway, good job, keep it up and thanks for at least not polluting the main forum with your personal issues and strange belief systems. :)

Is it really any different than arguing about "what is real Kung Fu" or "Do you do that with an opened or closed fist?" In the grand scheme of things none of us are going to change anybody's mind here. This is for entertainment purposes only.

You have over 13K post here. That why I was surprised about the "wasted time"?:D

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapc...ex.html?hpt=T1

The US military are using women and children for target practice over there

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Kabul, Afghanistan (CNN) -- The head of U.S. forces in Afghanistan, General Stanley McChrystal, expressed regret Monday after more than two dozen civilians were killed in a NATO airstrike.

Twenty-seven civilians died and 14 others were wounded in the incident Sunday in the central Daikondi province, according to the Afghan Interior Ministry.

Ground forces at the scene found women and children among the casualties, the Afghan government and NATO's International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) said in a joint statement.

"I have made it clear to our forces that we are here to protect the Afghan people, and inadvertently killing or injuring civilians undermines their trust and confidence in our mission. We will re-double our efforts to regain that trust."

In a statement published in Pashtun and Dari, the Afghan cabinet said it condemned "the repeated killing of civilians by NATO." An English version of the statement did not include that sentence.

Civilian casualties at the hands of U.S. and NATO troops have strained relations between Afghanistan and the United States.

In the last two weeks alone, more than 50 Afghan civilians are believed to have been killed in more than half a dozen U.S. and NATO military operations.

The coalition is also investigating reports that several Afghan policemen were accidentally killed in an airstrike in eastern Afghanistan on February 18.

McChrystal has made avoiding civilian casualties a top priority, and he has apologized to the Afghan government for recent incidents.

Meanwhile, an influential Afghan tribal leader was among 14 people killed in a suicide attack on a meeting of tribal elders on Monday in Nangarhar province's Khogyani district, Afghan police said according to Agence France-Presse.

Haji Zaman Ghamsharik was credited with bringing relative stability to Nangarhar compared to other provinces in Afghanistan's volatile eastern border region.

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Should these people not be charged with war crimes?

BD, knock off the attacks on the soldiers. You stop, and I'll stop. You continue, and I'll continue.

You are a liar and a fraud, and I am sick of you insulting my profession.

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Originally Posted by Drake

BD, knock off the attacks on the soldiers. You stop, and I'll stop. You continue, and I'll continue.

You are a liar and a fraud, and I am sick of you insulting my profession.

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Talk to Gene about that.

The military is a political issue and in no way reflects personally on you or any other individual. Sorry but you can't, or should not be allowed to dictate comments about the US military simply because you feel differently.

I get followed around the board and have to put up with reading personal attacks on a friend of mine that are made daily.....however I let that go because I know the guy is a public figure.

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Originally Posted by BoulderDawg

Talk to Gene about that.

The military is a political issue and in no way reflects personally on you or any other individual. Sorry but you can't, or should not be allowed to dictate comments about the US military simply because you feel differently.

I get followed around the board and have to put up with reading personal attacks on a friend of mine that are made daily.....however I let that go because I know the guy is a public figure.

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because I am in the military, you moron. If you worked for Company X, and I said Company X was nothing but child rapists and murderers, then you are being personally attacked, because you are included. When are you going to get it through your thick skull that attacking a group someone is in instead of that person, you are still attacking that person? Are you that stupid?

What a hypocritical titty-baby.

He whines and cries to Gene about stopping all the name-calling, then says he should still be able to call names. He never ceases to amaze.