What is wrong with Bruce Kumar Frantzis?
Hello,
I have read a few posts on this forum where some people do not have a lot of good things to say about Bruce Kumar Frantzis. I have never met him, but his books and videos are what really got me interested in Chinese martial arts. My question for this thread is what is so bad about him that causes some people to speak negatively about him or his practices.
I recently conducted a Google search for Frantzis and Seagal. In this search, I varied the terms used: "jerk Seagal," "a*s Seagal," "b*tch Seagal," "f*ck Seagal," loser Seagal," and so forth. I conducted the same search with Frantzis. While nearly everything provided results for Steven Seagal, there were none provided for Bruce Kumar Frantzis. I could not find anything against his teachings, ethics, standards, or business online.
So why do some of you not like him? I would like to bring some clarity to this matter because some claims are made about him here that usually go unchecked or unchallenged. These claims, in my opinion, are unfair when not supplied with reasons to support them.
Thanks,
Doug M
Bruce Kumar Frantzis in CA
This is the person in question. He claimed this? When? Where? Details, please.
Thanks,
Doug M
Is okay not to like his book?
The book didn't do it for me. The character sketches were interesting, but the book was filled with lots of general statements "about" the arts. 300 pages and nothing concrete on "how". In the end, it was just a bunch of words to take on faith, nothing was presented that could be tested.
There aren't any "Combat Secrets" in "The Power of Internal Martial Arts: Combat Secrets of Ba Gua, Tai Chi, and Hsing-I". It's an inspirational book which is why people like it, but like most inspirational books it only inspires people that already believe.
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no offense meant in posting
Hey Guys,
I want to make it clear that I did not and do not mean any disrespect toward Bruce Kumar Frantzis with posting this thread. Mant negative things have been said about him, yet there seems to be no reason why. That is why I wanted to bring this to the foreground: to establish some kind of reasoning for or against such accusations. The above responses are statements that offer possibilities to my initial question, but they are not taken to heart. I wanted a better understanding of some of the opinions that have been offered on this forum about the man.
As I said, I like the material he offers. Unfortunately, I do not have the money to go to a seminar just yet, which puts me in a disadvantageous position if I intend to learn from him (I also believe, as any sane person does, that the best way to learn is from the source). In that respect, I am disappointed that people with ample money have access to teachings that I think everyone should be able to have access to. Kumar seems to present his material in a way that I relate to, but that could be the impression I get, not the reality of his personality.
It seems that some might have conflicts with his character, which can be a problem with any teacher. Of course, one will learn the most from the instructor one can get along with or relate to somehow, but we do not all have that privilege. Perhaps this has played a role in some opinions here.
However, I have a sad feeling deep down that I will never be able to practice with him. He seems very distant as a result of all of his activities in seminars and personal practice that he must be doing on a daily basis (even though it seems he has not time for that). I would like to meet him at least once.
Anyway, thanks for posting all these responses. Please keep responding.
Doug M
Details, details, details...
Oh? the old Mr.X thing? If Robert Smith had a problem with Kumar , he certainly did not have the balls to DO ANYTHING ABOUT it , now did hid he? Smith has the balls to talk abouy " Boxers of the mouth corners " though. Seems to me he was first rate in this regard...
As a fighter in his day I don't think anyone can disagree, now his personality and how he treats people that's a different story.
Back I'd be careful repeating what you hear on the internet especially accusations of frauds. However the names listed seems on the money to me however Li I don't know of and BK is real his only fraudelent behavior I'm aware of is his exagerations with his time spent studying with Wang Shu Jin.
Only Yang and Wu stylists have the true Chang San Feng energies and no matter how ultimate Chen style fajin can be, it is dangerous and will harm your health and is against the natural way
Wow, there are quite a few claims here. Can you fellows elaborate on these points a bit more? There are either claims or statements made here that are not quite clear in their present context. I would appreciate it if you could go into more detail about the respective claims with further reasoning.
Thanks,
Doug M