Hi, I'm interested in Choy Li Fut.
Does anybody here know of any Choy Li Fut masters that are on par, or have more skill/knowledge than Wong Ha?
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Hi, I'm interested in Choy Li Fut.
Does anybody here know of any Choy Li Fut masters that are on par, or have more skill/knowledge than Wong Ha?
There's Lai Hung, but he's Bak Sing Choy Lay Fut.
Thanks, I've heard good things about Lai Hung as well.
Does anybody know what branch of Choy Li Fut Wong Ha practices?
Who is Wong Ha?
Master Li Siu Hung is considered an authority in Choy Lay Fut. Master Tat Mau Wong also.
www.leekoonhungkungfu.com
Or my Sifu, Mak Hin Fai, he is Tat Mau Wong and Liu Siu Hung's classmate. Also, Michael Punsche in Germany. All these people are Lee Koon Hung's students. I don't know where you are located so can't give you anything real specific.
Fu-Pow
I also don't know who Wong Ha is?
Fu-Pow
From what I've heard from other Choy Li Fut people, Wong Ha is one of the top people in Choy Li Fut in North America. He lives in Vancouver, and I think he's in his late 80's.
Does anybody know of any masters around his age, and around his skill level, or higher? Perhaps Lee Koon Hung's masters or kung fu uncles.
I'm pretty sure that Lee Koon Hung's Sifu is still around (or one of them). His name is Poon Sing. I'm pretty sure he came down to our school but unfortunately I wasn't there at the time. I have no idea where he lives or even if he is still teaching. If you want to see our whole lineage go to makskungfu.com . It is strange that I have never heard of Wong Ha when I live in Seattle? My Sifu has never mentioned him either. Are you certain that he is Hung Sing. And if so what branch of the family?
Fu-Pow
Wong Ha is from the Hung Sing branch of Choy Lay Fut and is the sifu of Hilbert Yu. I really wouldn't get caught up in how old or what generation a particular master is. CLF is a fast moving style, so there are some draw backs of learning from a sifu was is rather advanced in age.
Find a sifu, see if he is good and check his lineage if you like. The most important thing is, is his kung fu good.
By the way none of Lee Koon Hung's main CLF sifu's are still alive.
Peace.
Where would Doc Fai Wong rate in this comparison? Almost half of the articles/books I have ever seen have been authored or co-authored by him...
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I said to her, "For you who are so old but forever young I have many questions."
She said to me, "And I have but one answer - you must be a silhouette of the dragon against the moon."
Doc Fai Wong does Choy Lay Fut at Tai Chi speed.
CLFNole is right about having an old teacher.
Nuff said.
Fu-Pow
doc fai wong...hahahaha. now that's funny.
why don't you just call up jane hallander and study from her? (cough).
if i wanted you to know me, you'd know me.
-ironvest-
Doc Fai Wong is strange. I've seen footage of him and his students and they've never looked like they could fight their way out of a wet paper bag. However, I once met Gini Lau's (Faan Tze Ying Jow Pai) husband who is one of his top students, and he certainly knows his stuff.
If I had to find a CLF master in North America I'd probably go to Paul Chan in Toronto (Hong Luck Kung Fu School)
"Weapons are the embodiments of fear,
the wise use them only when they have no choice"
Lao Tzu
Don't be too quick to write off Doc Fai-Wong, he has alot more than he shows. He was the youngest Sifu to open up in San Francisco's Chinatown, at about 18, and took on all comers in doing so. He is well respected in the Chinatown community. As far as not learning from an older Sifu, I think longevity speaks for itself.
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Don't forget Chan Yong Fa, the head of Chan family Choy lee fut. There is life outside north america, you know ;)
As premier said there is life outside of North America, my sifu is the European representative of the Hong Kong Choy Lee Fut Kung Fu Association here in the UK. I don’t think they would have appointed him to that position if he didn’t have the skill or knowledge.
PS I believe Sifu Poon Shing is alive and living in Hong Kong and is still playing a major role with the Hong Kong Choy Lee Fut Kung Fu Association.
Saying is not boasting at all
alecM, are you one of Edmund Ng's students?
"Weapons are the embodiments of fear,
the wise use them only when they have no choice"
Lao Tzu
Yes I am one of Sifu Ng’s senior students
Saying is not boasting at all
Doc Fai Wong is one of the, if not THE foremost authority on Choy Li Fut in the United States. His students could not fight out of a wet paper bag??? It is truly amazing the ignorance of some of the people that post topics on here.....
Or is it the insight that people have on here....
Doc Fai Wong is a joke. All talk and no substance.....authority my ass.
Fu-Pow
"If you are talking about sport that is one thing. But when you are talking about combat-as it is-well then, baby, you'd better train every part of your body" - Bruce Lee
Frank Primicias knows his choy lay fut very well. He teaches in San Diego and is one of the 4 competent instructors that I know of. I have met him, his students and seen his class. He knows how to use the applications of CLF and also knows the internal aspects about the chi circulating through the meridians. Check out www.choylayfut.com
Chen Yong Fa is coming to San Diego in May for a seminar also.
I'd like to add that I'm not a student of Frank Primicias. Just so you guys don't see me as biased.
Fu-Pow - You should be more respectful of your elders! According to your profile you have only trained for 4 years and only 3 of those in Choy Li Fut. I'm sure your sifu doesn't need to bash others in order to make himself look good and he would probably chastise you for disrespecting other promenant masters of Choy Li Fut.
If you truly believe that your Kung Fu is better - ask your sifu for permission to go and challenge Grandmaster Wong to a fight and see if he will agree.
Yeah sure...OK...whatever you say...
Fu-Pow
http://www.makskungfu.com/images/Graphics/logo.gif
"If you are talking about sport that is one thing. But when you are talking about combat-as it is-well then, baby, you'd better train every part of your body" - Bruce Lee
My sifu is Fu Hang Ing.
He is extremly knowledgable, and a very respectfull man.
The founder of Choy Lee Fut was Chan Heung ( 1806 - 1875 ). Chan Heung had two sons, On Pak and Koon Pak. Chan Koon Pak also had two sons, Man Bun and Yiu Chi. Chan Yiu Chi had two sons (Wan Hon and Sun Chu ) and a daughter, Kit Fong. Mr. Chan Yiu Chi passed away in 1965. Sifu Ng, Fu Hang is the son of Chan Kit Fong and hence the grandson of Mr. Chan Yiu Chi. Sifu Ng, Fu Hang studied under his grandfather and hence is a 4 th. generation practitioner of Choy lee Fut.
The first couple of months I studied with Frank Pimicias' son, Wes Primicias. He was also very knowledgable in clf.
Alot of differences though.
In my haste I mistyped the last name of my sifu. In pinyin it in Ng not Ing.
I felt weird when I saw that.
A Sifu Wong Yee Mun from Toi San is here in NYC for a short time and is giving seminars.
the 1st will be on June 1st at 7pm at
Yee's Hung Ga Kung Fu Academy - Chelsea Branch
150 West 28th Street - 6th Floor
Topic: Form and applications & theory.
Cost Just $20
For Information call: 212-366-6569
For future Seminar dates and locations or Private Instruction call:
212-366-6569 or 212 673-1436
:) :)
eric Hargrove
ngokfei@juno.com
update.
I think the sifu is from the Hung Sing branch
and also, my mistake. $20 for Yee's students and $50 for outsiders.
eric Hargrove
ngokfei@juno.com
Does ur sku also train in clf? and if you do...u should try gettin grandmaster chan yong fa out there to give a seminar...its worth it. check out his students webpage...www.clfma.com and it'll explain a little more bout him :D
Just asking for information on Choy Lay Fut and if there any good schools/teachers in Surrey in England of Choy Lay Fut or other styles of Shaolin kung fu.
Thanks for any help.
See AlecM profile, there you will find a link to more info about CLF in UK.
thats the linkhttp://alecmorris.topcities.com/main.htm
I've got the opportunity to train in this style for a while, and I'm just wondering what people think of it? It's quite expensive, so I want to be sure I'm gonna get into it if I'm gonna start paying. Also, I'm not sure how well I'd gel with it (from the guy I spoke to's description, the forms are *really* extensive, and I tend to prefer forms to be relatively short and to the point).
Also, this is the website of the club I'd be training at:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~kungfu/HY_england.htm
Does anyone who does or has done Choy Li Fut have any comments about the club, based on prior knowledge, or the (admittedly fairly limited) info offered on the site?
Thanks a lot to anyone who takes the time to respond,
Sasha
I made a reply to this in the main forum. However, you will probably get more responses here.
I have never heard of this school before, apparently it is associated with Doc Fai Wong.
I would recommend calling Doc Fai Wong headquarters in San Fran and make sure that this school has been certified by Doc Fai Wong to teach.
Therer are many people that after attending one or two seminars go on to "teach" the style and claim to be taught by such and such master.
There is another big red flag going up here because it is very expensive. Kung Fu training should not be very expensive.
And BTW, karate and CLF do not go very well together. This is a bit suspect.
I'd do a little more research and ask some more questions.
Anyone happen to have an email addy for Doc Fai Wong? Calling San Francisco for any kind of in depth discussion would probably cost as much as a year's training anyway :rolleyes:
www.plumblossom.net (DFW)
Even if this guy's legit, he's not very good.
Check out www.zhengdaolo.com
Just checked plum blossom's school listing and apparently they're legit. How expensive is expensive?
I think the cost he said was £75 initial payment for lifetime membership/equipment, and then basically £5 a lesson (paid monthly - £20 if you were planning to attend once a week, £40 if twice, and beyond that I'm not sure).
At my current club I pay the basic cost of equipment as and when I want to get it (apart from the uniform which is mandatory), and £20 a month for unlimited lessons, so maybe I'm a bit spoilt :)
The first link is broken btw. Was there anything important on it? And what was the significance of the second (besides having a brief description of Choy Li Fut)? I couldn't see anything about this particular club...
too expensive, you can buy a car with a year of training...
well korean and used.