A place to discuss religion and philosophy without hijacking threads.
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A place to discuss religion and philosophy without hijacking threads.
This thread will either get huge or deleted!
;)
Probably.
Im going to hijack it and talk about kung fu!!!!!!!!!!
Nooooooo.....
I actually think it'll get hijacked by someone talking about politics.
I like bacon sammiches.
Wanna place a bet which way it goes?
So, how 'bout them Raelians? ;)
You know that site that themeecer told me to get the videos from?
It's www.drdino.com in case you didn't see it.
Anyway, check this out from their FAQ! I can't stop laughing!
:D :D :DQuote:
How did Noah take care of all those animals on the Ark?
Answer:
It is reasonable to assume that the larger types of animals on the Ark were young animals because they would weigh less, eat less, and sleep more. Also, after the flood they would live longer to produce more offspring. No one knows for sure how many animals were on the ark. Limiting it down to two of each kind does not mean there were two of each species or variety that we have today. There seem to be about 8000 basic kinds of animal in the world. Also, many animals become dormant, lethargic or even hibernate during stormy weather.
Through the instructions that God gave or through the wisdom of Noah he was given the ability to provide a watering mechanism to disperse water to the animals throughout the ark and possibly even a food distribution system. In Genesis 1:29-30, the Bible teaches that before the flood all the animals were vegetarians so there was not a problem with, for example, the lion trying to eat the lamb. Some have suggested that there was a moon pool, a hole in the center of the floor, which would provide a place for fishing and, if necessary, a way to dispense animal waste from the ark.
The minor problems that the Bible believers cannot always answer are nothing compared to the problems and questions that the evolutionists cannot answer. Although I do not know exactly how Noah took care of all the animals on the ark, I am going to believe the Bible until it is proven wrong instead of doubt the Bible until it is proven right. For someone to reject the Bible and then accept the story that we all came from a rock is silly!
You know, if we talk about Chung Moo Do the thread would technically be on topic for both the kungfu forum & the thread topic title ;)
Thats possibly the weakest argument for believing the bible I've ever heard.
why dont you guys post on my topic? That way i can feel like i am important in some way. Then, when someone talks to me in real life without proper respect, i can bi!ch slap them and say "you troll!"
Done! happy now?
yep
You can do that anyway.Quote:
Originally posted by Shuul Vis
why dont you guys post on my topic? That way i can feel like i am important in some way. Then, when someone talks to me in real life without proper respect, i can bi!ch slap them and say "you troll!"
That site meecer pointed out is hillarious. I'm suprised he gave it as a link to credible evidence for the existance of god.
Exactly. That site on its own undermines any credibility he might have had.
I wish he would reply to this. That would really get this thread goin.
He doesn't have the gonads to actually enter into a conversation about it - he made that perfectly clear in the last thread. He thinks we should read all there is to read about the subject first, then he might be prepared to discuss it privately.
Not to confident in his convictions is he. Even though, according to him, his argument will beat anything we might have to say.
what hell is scientology anyway, I just saw a commercial about L. Ron Hubbard, anyone have any ideas, just wondering.....
You kidding? Major cult that targets rich and famous people to garner power. Heaps of Hollywood celebs are in it. Heavily into brain washing type stuff.Quote:
Originally posted by Evad
what hell is scientology anyway, I just saw a commercial about L. Ron Hubbard, anyone have any ideas, just wondering.....
Oh I've heard of it, heard about it, seen the documentary specials, etc. But I never really paid any attention to it, I was just wondering if anyone had any real experience with it, with all the celeb news we've been blanketed with lately about world events etc. And I know that they're all in that scientology stuff, I was just seeking perspective.
Empty cup thing I guess, if I assume to know nothing then I should be open to the most information, then I'll be able to form an opinion for myself.
Ahem .. this from the person that is afraid to list his martial art because he doesn't want to be questioned about it. If I proved anything on this forum it is that I have a pair. I have put myself out plainly for your criticisms, I have hid nothing. I have told you I study SD; I have told you that I am a creationist. The reason I preferred taking the topic to PMs was to keep the boards on the topic of Kung Fu. Don't be telling me to grow some balls when you have none yourself. I'm going to bed, g'night.Quote:
Originally posted by Serpent
He doesn't have the gonads to actually enter into a conversation about it -
Meecer, whatever you do, don't engage people in an intellectual debate! They're only trying to convert you to satanism!:eek:
And seriously, rethink your sig. It's false.
great religious discussion so far, ill just get back to drinking my tea :)
dawood
Are'nt trolls part of some religion..?
:D
George Bush hates Mohammed.
To Serp: the chum award for outstanding lack of subtlety in trolling.
click me
:D
For anyone interested in a critique of scientology, I'd suggest "Operation Clambake" at the net-address:
http://www.xenu.com/
Scientology makes you pay to take classes that helps you "evolve"...and the higher level the classes, the more expensive. The highest levels indicate that every soul on Earth was at one time part of a different galactic empire, where there was this galactic overlord who killed/tortured us as a "racial purging" kind of thing. To achieve true happiness, our souls have to find a way to deal with this trauma...and that's what the most advanced scientology classes deal with, I've heard. The lower level classes seem to be all about self-affirmation, which would probably be the "level" of the typical member.
I THINK I got all that right.
Not surprisingly to me, scientology's founder was a sci-fi writer. :)
shaolin kungfu, why would you say the meecers sig is false?
Hey, everybody! It's WIM DELVOYE!
And nobody is belittling themeecer's religious beliefs. We are belittling his scientific beliefs.
So how bout them crusades??:D
They still goin on??:confused: :D :p :rolleyes:
:rolleyes: because only christians ever did that....I sense another idiotic religious discussion coming on.
Isn;t there a religon where you have to chop your testicles off and put um in a jar???:confused: :eek: Serious. I saw somthin on it. on the internet:D :p
Is it some kind of militant lesbian religion?Quote:
Originally posted by Surferdude
Isn;t there a religon where you have to chop your testicles off and put um in a jar???:confused: :eek: Serious. I saw somthin on it. on the internet:D :p
All right. I was trying not to get sucked in to this, but anyway. . .
I'm not going to weigh in on the whole evolution vs. creationism argument because it's ultimately meaningless. Both sides, however, rely upon faith to support their beliefs. Faith in the Bible of faith in scientific methods to explain something that can't be proven. No one really knows what happened when the world was created. We can only provide our best "educated" guesses.
You betray yourself their, JP. Created implies a creator.Quote:
No one really knows what happened when the world was created
I think it might be... Somewhere in Indonesia or latvia or somethin like thatQuote:
Originally posted by quiet man
Is it some kind of militant lesbian religion?
"I'm not going to weigh in on the whole evolution vs. creationism argument because it's ultimately meaningless. Both sides, however, rely upon faith to support their beliefs. Faith in the Bible of faith in scientific methods to explain something that can't be proven. No one really knows what happened when the world was created. We can only provide our best "educated" guesses."
Iīm suspecting this thread may get big and I try to keep this as my first/last post but Iīd just like to correct this one a bit.
You say both sides rely on faith,I do not know how broad a consideration this is but thatīs not entirely so.
There are 500 creation stories,then there is scientific method and assuming weīre talking evolutionary biology here (not all there is to it) the theory and fact of evolution which has stood the test of time and remains dominant,thereīs no controversy over that.When someone comes up with a better theory and becomes world famous (notice that "just a theory" canīt exist.Theories donīt become laws.Theories are proven beyond reasonable doubt by definition) gets a Nobel prize etc. Iīll be there to shake a hand,I doubt that will happen anytime soon at least,considering that weīve have been building on the foundation of modern biology for so long.
Anyway,what you say about nobody being there,thatīs true while it does not mean it canīt and would not have been worked on.Since biological (not cosmic that astroscientists study) evolution is the case,it has little to say about the "creation" itself,what that ever means to one.To assume it is concerned with that is a common fallacy,if youīre concerned with that,cosmology would be a better pick of interest.Many,many people are still very ignorant of basic science (not actually referring to anyone in particular)
edit:
"My point is that the appearence of life, and the evolution of different species from a single cell formed in a primordial soup is only a best educated guess "
This is a very complex subject and being worked on,there are some good books around if youīre interested.
Besides this,the theory is pretty reasonable in the light of current models and experiments.Exact mechanisms are always the hardest thing to track down and "educated guess" refers to a hypothesis to be tested,with a reason for itīs being.