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Originally Posted by Infrazael
So I joined up at a local MMA school about 5 minutes away, it's a good school with a couple of pro fighters from UFC and Pride and stuff. Anyways ever since I started learning the boxing and Muay Thai, I've kept on comparing/contrasting it with the CLF, in terms of technique, footwork, movement etc.
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Now the boxing I love, it's great, I consider it merely an addition to my CLF techniques. Their jab is awesome, their cross is different and works well, they train in a different uppercut which simply adds to my CLF arsenal. Now I'm not very fond of their overhand hooks because. . . . . Sau Choys are just simply better.
nah, the purpose is just different. isn't a sau choy a forearm strike? (I'm not a clf guy) The over hand is meant to exploit a hole in your opponent's guard. A forearm strike could not do this.
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I also learned the Muay Thai kicks, they actually have 2 kinds, 1 for the legs and head, and another for the body. The leg and head kick you kinda bring your leg up, open your hips, and don't chamber the leg. You pivot in the balls of your supporting foot, and twist and lean back slightly. You bring the leg up, then chop it downwards like you have a dead leg, causing maximum momentum. It's rather like the Sau Choy, the primary deal is to cause as much whipping energy as much IMO, followed by muscular force, etc.
The kick to the body comes up, and again you don't chamber your leg. It cuts upwards at about a 45 degree angle, and this is the "fast" roundhouse that you see guys do to each other's ribs. IMO, these kicks are alot more powerful than snap kicks, but if you miss you end up spinning due to the massive rotational force generated by the kicks.
There are more kicks than this. This is merely two versions of the roundhouse. Another version is the switch kick. In addition, there is the teep, back kick and several other kicks, however, you will likely only learn the roundhouse, teep and back kicks.
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Then there's the knees/elbows. In actuality. . . . . . they're not much different than the CLF elbows. Muay Thai has just got more, and more variations. Some include back elbow, horizontal elbow, spear elbow, diagonal crushing elbow, rising elbow, and in Muay Boran you have spinning elbows and all that good stuff.
Yes, there are LOTS of variations.
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When you do them it doesn't "look MT" or "look CLF". . . . . it looks like elbow techniques. I think what differentiates us from them are the overall body mechanics, movements etc. We fight more like boxers, except with alot more emphasize on the bridging, attacking the limbs stuff etc. . . . I like it alot more, in boxing if you're getting overwhelmed you're taught to cover, weave, roll etc, while we just attack the attack. :D
attacking the attack is not good when there are so many punches coming at you. If boxers did that, you would see A LOT more 1st and 2nd round KOs. Besides, their aim is to KO the guy - they are better served by trying to achieve that purpose and not attaking the limbs. boxers don't bridge, I'm guessing because of the speed. It would be nearly impossible to connect and stick with a jab - they are too fast.
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In Muay Thai the punching is pretty pathetic. . . . . most Thai boxers train their legs and kicks alot more anyways, and elbows/knees and clinch. I think what we CLF guys can learn about "MT elbows" are merely the way they use them, they take those ideas and incorporate it into the CLF. MT is amazing clinching skills, and I have yet to see a round knee in CLF yet. Even our rising knees aren't perfected to their degree.
punching is definitely not their strength. The reasoning behind that is that all of the other techniques are much more devastating. Consequently, they would rather use those.
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PS -- Sau Choy pretty much owns every single boxing punch in terms of pure power.
I would put money on that not being true. the haymaker is a very powerful punch and also utilizes a wide arc. Also, the forearm will be easier to block. The fist is more likely to slip through their guard.