hi,if there are any jackie chan fans then what is your 10 favourite jackie movies???What kind of kung fu does jackie chan do?
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hi,if there are any jackie chan fans then what is your 10 favourite jackie movies???What kind of kung fu does jackie chan do?
drunken master for sure
my fave jackie movies are the ones he directed.
read this book
http://www.randomhouse.com/features/iamjackiechan/
To name a few more that I enjoyed DM, DM2, Project A(chinese version only), supercop, Police Story(get chinese version, impossible to find original, also, do not buy "crime force"), dragons forever, wheels on meals, Hand of Death(not the main guy, but he is very good in this), first strike(for the ladder fight and the underwater fu), and do not miss out on snake in eagle's shadow.
Young Master is my fav Jackie flick. It's got the best choregraphy, lots of complex fight scenes, and catches Jackie in his fighting prime.
But I got to add that the coolest ones are the new ones that haven't been released in the USA: New Police Story & The Myth. You got to get those on DVD and they'll make you the life of the party, assuming that party is talking about Jackie Chan.
don't scare me like that. I place the 2 fights with benny the jet right behind that whoel movie. And admit it gene, your favorite part of the movie is when teh credits role and jackie sings that wonderful song:p
My favorite Jackie Chan movies are:
The Myth
The new police story
Dragons Forever
shaolin wooden men
Snake and Crane arts of Shaolin
Dragon Fist
Drunken Master 1 and 2
I cant wait to see the new Jackie movies either.
jackie's earlier stuff from hong kong are my favorites, specifically Drunken master, snake in Eagles shadow, Young Master, the lucky stars series, the police story series and every other Jackie chan movie for that matter. He is defienently my most favorite action star and the one who got me into china and Chinese martial arts, and has completely changed my life. Im not ashamed to call him my Hero :)
i saw The myth. mah, it was ok. i just rented thunderball and liked it. download the new police story, pretty good.
I've read the comments that Jackie Chan made before a group of Chinese Business men:
I'm beyond shocked. Jackie Chan is a racist. I respect the man's right to his opinion on politics. There are many people on this board who have brought into the Chinese government propaganda they spread hook, line and sinker. That said his suggestion that the Chinese people are simply stupid children that need looking after is no different than the comments made in this country a 150 years ago as an argument to not free the slaves.Quote:
"I'm not sure if it's good to have freedom or not," Chan said Saturday. "I'm gradually beginning to feel that we Chinese need to be controlled. If we're not being controlled, we'll just do what we want."
He went on to say that freedoms in Hong Kong and Taiwan made those societies "chaotic."
Chan's comments drew applause from a predominantly Chinese audience of business leaders
no he's not: he's talking about fellow Chinese - how exactly would that constitute racism, if it de facto applies to him as well?:
Chinese government propaganda has been going on for millennia; I don't know who has bought into it, it's pretty apparent that historically the government has been relatively oligarchic and repressive in its content;
that's a bit of a reach; while it is suggesting limitation on personal freedom, it's not in the sense that one group of people should be owned by another as property;
sounds more like the man has some sort of quasi-Confucist political perspective; nothing new there - the history of China has been an on-going debate about just how much freedom people should have, from the rigidity of the Confucists to the anarchy of the Taoists and everywhere in between; the way that sort of comment is going to be perceived in China is not the same as it would be received elsewhere in the world
JC is making these comments as a Rich Man as many of the new elite of China do.
On many a program I've seen how these individuals want to protect their ability to compete in the world market by controling their workers (ie: paying them very little $$ compared other countries).
There is no such thing as true Communism. What we see is Dictatorships using military force.
He still made some cool movies though:D
people who live under tight control and suddenly find freedom often become decadent. Look at Russia, HK, and Catholic High School Girls.
In police stations all over America some of the most racist attitudes towards blacks are held by black officers.
The real dividing force here is weath and social status. Chan has lost touch.
doesn't matter, the argument is about freedom and whether or not an entire race of people is intelligent enough to decide their own faith.
Yep can't forget the USA. We were so moral and ..... under British Rule. Now we've gone and infected the world:eek:
What about those Hung Ga Exponents;)
Did you get the ads of him flogging the Chinese Olympics in the USA, both the Chinese Olympic Committee and Visa series?
He's a party man, as one must be to be successful in China. Shock Horror!
And as most people will tell you, the government does not control China anyway. Governing in China is like herding cats.
it's evident in most cultures and nations... freedom... that funny little word at the center of our existence.
there is no order without chaos. :DQuote:
from the rigidity of the Confucists to the anarchy of the Taoists and everywhere in between;
imagine that... people who misunderstand each other. :)Quote:
the way that sort of comment is going to be perceived in China is not the same as it would be received elsewhere in the world
if i had been sipping tea, it would've most likely come out my nose...
Money and education the long time solution? Seems to me I heard something about that also being Mao's goals too. Didn't the literacy rate start rising every year when Mao took power?
I still don't know what some poor smuck stealing fish has to do with this. I think instead of busting his chops for breaking a petty law you should loudly protest the government and regulations (or lack thereof) that caused the water and air to become polluted in the first place. Of course you'll go to jail but it's got to start somewhere.
Some people have defended on these words by JC as he is not very good in verbal and diplomatic skill. I tend to agree so. And also some reactions to these words are over-reactive. Tentigers is correct. When people receive too much freedom, they tend to abuse it. And that is what JC meant when he said Chinese needed to be controlled. So, let us calm down.
Regards,
KC
Hong Kong
What? There are many in this country that have also said that people have too many freedoms and take liberty with things (for example, freedom of speech to say ANYTHING no matter how offensive just because you can say it vs. limited speech that has no redeeming value).
As far as 150 yrs. ago, Blacks were thought of as sub-human. They weren't even considered on the same level as Whites. That is a HUGE difference between what Chan said and that attitude. Do you even know the difference between prejudice and racist?
You could say that Jackie Chan is an elitist and would be correct, but not a racist.
I wonder how Jackie would feel about having the controls imposed upon him that he thinks the rest of the Chinese people need.
This kind of thinking is rife with error in my opinion.
People, if anything, should take responsibility for each and everyone of the actions they take and they should be prepared to deal wit the consequences of said actions good or bad.
Letting government decide what you can and cannot do leads to disaster.
Letting someone else control what you do or say in a general sense is also a foundation for disaster.
Once a person reaches the age of responsibility, they should undertake to engage themselves in that responsibility.
I'm just amazed there are people here who will defend a government such as this. I also notice that some of the people who are defending it also left it and moved elsewhere.
I think these people have forgotten that the same people who killed so many people at Tiananmen Square and in the aftermath are still in charge of the country. They are perfectly content with Chan's statement. They also have convinced the Chinese people of the false belief that "Things are changing in China but's a slow process and you must wait."
Real change in China is many decades away.
I definitely need to be controlled. I'm thinking Gina Carano is just that person who should control me.
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Jackie Chan: Chinese people need to be controlled
AP
By WILLIAM FOREMAN, Associated Press Writer William Foreman, Associated Press Writer – Sat Apr 18, 2:48 pm ET
BOAO, China – Action star Jackie Chan said Saturday he's not sure if a free society is a good thing for China and that he's starting to think "we Chinese need to be controlled."
Chan's comments drew applause from a predominantly Chinese audience of business leaders in China's southern island province of Hainan.
The 55-year-old Hong Kong actor was participating in a panel at the annual Boao Forum when he was asked to discuss censorship and restrictions on filmmakers in China. He expanded his comments to include society.
"I'm not sure if it's good to have freedom or not," Chan said. "I'm really confused now. If you're too free, you're like the way Hong Kong is now. It's very chaotic. Taiwan is also chaotic."
Chan added: "I'm gradually beginning to feel that we Chinese need to be controlled. If we're not being controlled, we'll just do what we want."
The kung fu star has not been a vocal supporter of the pro-democracy movement in his hometown of Hong Kong. Since the former British colony returned to Chinese rule in 1997, voters have not been allowed to directly elect their leader. Several massive street protests have been held to demand full democracy, but Beijing has repeatedly said Hong Kong isn't ready for it.
The theme at Saturday's panel discussion was "Tapping into Asia's Creative Industry Potential," and Chan had several opinions about innovation in China.
He said that early in his career, he lived in the shadow of the late martial arts star Bruce Lee. He said that during his first foray into Hollywood, he struggled to establish his own identity, so he returned to Hong Kong. After spending 15 years building his reputation in Asia, Chan finally got rediscovered by Hollywood, he said.
Chan said the problem with Chinese youth is that "they like other people's things. They don't like their own things." Young people need to spend more time developing their own style, he added.
The action hero complained that Chinese goods still have too many quality problems. He became emotional when discussing contaminated milk powder that sickened tens of thousands of Chinese babies in the past year.
Speaking fast with his voice rising, Chan said, "If I need to buy a TV, I'll definitely buy a Japanese TV. A Chinese TV might explode."
Quote:
Jackie Chan's China comments prompt backlash (AP)
Source: AP Sun Apr 19, 2009, 4:20 am EDT
HONG KONG - Action star Jackie Chan 's comments wondering whether Chinese people "need to be controlled" have drawn sharp rebuke in his native Hong Kong and in Taiwan .
Chan told a business forum in the southern Chinese province of Hainan that a free society may not be beneficial for China 's authoritarian mainland.
"I'm not sure if it's good to have freedom or not," Chan said Saturday. "I'm gradually beginning to feel that we Chinese need to be controlled. If we're not being controlled, we'll just do what we want."
He went on to say that freedoms in Hong Kong and Taiwan made those societies "chaotic."
Chan's comments drew applause from a predominantly Chinese audience of business leaders, but did not sit well with lawmakers in Taiwan and Hong Kong.
"He's insulted the Chinese people. Chinese people aren't pets," Hong Kong pro-democracy legislator Leung Kwok-hung told The Associated Press. "Chinese society needs a democratic system to protect human rights and rule of law."
Another lawmaker, Albert Ho, called the comments "racist," adding: "People around the world are running their own countries. Why can't Chinese do the same?"
Former British colony Hong Kong enjoys Western-style civil liberties and some democratic elections under Chinese rule. Half of its 60-member legislature is elected, with the other half picked by special interest groups. But Hong Kong's leader is chosen by a panel stacked with Beijing loyalists.
In democratically self-ruled Taiwan, which split from mainland China during a civil war in 1949, legislator Huang Wei-che said Chan himself "has enjoyed freedom and democracy and has reaped the economic benefits of capitalism. But he has yet to grasp the true meaning of freedom and democracy."
Chan's comments were reported by news outlets in Hong Kong and Taiwan, but were ignored by the mainland Chinese press.
Although Chan was a fierce critic of the brutal crackdown on pro-democracy protesters in Beijing's Tiananmen Square in June 1989, which killed at least hundreds, he has not publicly criticized China's government in recent years and is immensely popular on the mainland.
He performed during the opening and closing ceremonies of the Beijing Olympics and took part in the Olympic torch relay .
Chan also is vice chairman of the China Film Association, a key industry group.
I try to, every time I drive by one of their schools; although lately, when I slow the mini-van to a crawl and open the remote side-door, I've noticed one of the nuns pull out a cell phone and dial what I am assuming to be 911 (can't imagine why, I always drop them back off when I'm finished with the "photo shoot"; maybe its the duct tape residue :confused::confused::confused:)
His complete body of work might entitle him to the benifit of the doubt based on one statement he wold be considred a racist. Its words plus action that equal the measure of the man not words alone.Quote:
Although Chan was a fierce critic of the brutal crackdown on pro-democracy protesters in Beijing's Tiananmen Square in June 1989, which killed at least hundreds, he has not publicly criticized China's government in recent years and is immensely popular on the mainland.
Insurrection does not promote nationalism or unity. It breaks the mold of social structure and promotes individual hubris. When the government of a nation, and the nation itself is strong from unity, and strength, insurrection must be crushed and eliminated. This is not an option.
Revolution, disunity, and insurrection is a cycle that occurs naturally once the current ruling faction, government, dynasty, etc. reaches their despair event horizon and start to decline. There is no need to "push." Everything falls. Everything becomes rebuilt from the ashes of the prior empire.
Will the CCP fall one day? Most likely. But when? I hope not in my lifetime, I have ZERO desire to witness a civil war and slaughter between my own people.
Also just to let everyone know, we Chinese people (East Asian in general) did not come from a Euro-Centric, "Democratic" historical background. We are not descendants of the Romans and Greeks. We have our own culture, social rules, and history that built our nations up. To expect us to just bow down and act subservient to the West is ridiculous. That is blatant racism and imperialist agenda, trying to force the "just and civil democracy" upon our nation. We are under ZERO OBLIGATION to follow a conceptually racist demand. Why can't America and Europe understand this? They want to push for "civility" and "freedom?" Take a close look at your own history for the past 1000 years.
Captain Overcompensation strikes again! :rolleyes: (and the bits about insurrection don't really make sense when you copy and paste your comments out of context like this)
That was the biggest muddle of misdirected and irrational race-baiting and historical ignorance I've seen in quite some time.
A) political philosophy is not determined by race or vice versa
B) 1924 came before 1949
C) the majority of people, for the majority of time, in both 'da East' and 'da West' have been governed under Monarchies, so there goes the 'cultural imperative' theory right out the window
D) If any political philosophy can really lay claim to being 'Western,' it's Communism. That is the 'foreign' idea that infiltrated 'da East' at the cost of millions and millions and millions of lives. Your frustration is misdirected
Now i don't think Jackie Chan was calling the chinese stupid, he just thinks they need ruled over.