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If it be true, so the devil we KNOW is dead, now we just have to deal with those devils we DON'T know.
Cause that worked out so well for us in the past, LOL !
Time will tell I suppose...maybe.
That was my first thought when this whole thing began. It seems like the West never learns. Many Americans seem to believe that these countries will (or should) be transformed into a mini-U.S. That will never happen. I'm not saying that's good or bad in and of itself, only that these are completely different cultures from the West. Yet they keep supporting these overthrows of dictators that aren't really an immediate threat to the West. Then we're always surprised when hostile groups take over.
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.
Therefore history is insane. :)
Doc Brown is avenged after all this time.
So, that's a side bonus to his fall.
i thought the rebels were trying to take the high road here? shouldve taken him alive... i dunno all the details but i would bet a stack that they desecrated(sp?) his remains somehow. some modern day arab version of the mule drag thru the town square. i would have rather seen him go the route saddam went. killed legally.
I'm not surprised. And I also don't think the U.S. is necessarily any more righteous than any other country. That's why I stated that other countries' inability to become mini-Americas isn't good or bad in itself, but that they're just different, and you can't expect the U.S.'s values to translate the way many here think they should into another culture.
And I do expect that the new rulers will probably be anti-U.S. if they aren't already. They'll gladly accept the U.S.'s help, but once in power they usually show their true feelings on that. What really annoys me is that, with all the economic problems at home, the U.S. spent heaping amounts on military aid to Libya, when they should have let them handle their own problems. Maybe I'm uninformed here, but that's how I feel.
rest in peace, great king.
i really dont think oj simpson did it.
http://photos.myjoyonline.com/photos...391_217726.jpg
video:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-15389550
Appears he was executed.
Now the Western "Democracies" can move on to loot North African oil, and apparently gold reserves for the next zillion years. That is what these "people's" revolutions have always been about. Of course, they also help to put the given countries in line with a world financial system designed to screw almost
every man, woman and child on the planet. Yes, say hello to the banking cartels, and their puppets in the most powerful governments in the world.
This, and all the other uprisings in that region was never about creating a "Democracies", as first we need to create it in Europe and North America, before we export it to foreign lands through war and mass-murder, no less.
We have to move in and get things going on before those yokels slide into sharia and islamic law nonsense and find themselves with a theocratic dictator in a couple of years.
lol, the idiot they put in charge want's to combine religion and state apparently.
yeesh, it will take considerable effort to balance this world. Most of teh world doesn't have a clue what balance is.
The intended result was that Ghadaffi not be allowed to use a gold standard or to allow Russia or China to profit from Libyan Oil.
It really doesn't have a lot to do with democracy and quite frankly, the people of the middle east are pretty clueless about democracy and apply their own idea of what it is to it.
Many want "democracy" but also are "ok with sharia" which of course are contrary to each other, so it's not likely that people who have been subjected to dictators, tyrants and kings for generations aren't going to bump hip easily to a concept f individual freedom, worth, respect, equality etc.
Already they want to lift the limit on how many wives you can have.
seriously messed up. We cannot apply our paradigms to the folk there. They really don't share our viewpoint or our thinking on any of these subjects and it is a clever ruse by our government to use our own paradigm to explain what;s going on there.
More of the same is what you can expect, but the main thing is Ghaddafi is out and the impending threat of increased oil and gas prices is now gone and all the billions Libya had in foreign countries can be stolen with paltry and symbolic amounts returned to them in an effort to try and waylay expenses incurred.
It's laughable that people think this is about democracy. liberty and freedom? Sure, but how long does that last before the constraints are locked on again because someone thinks the world should run the way he wants it to.
meh, I don't care about any of it really, I just want Libya to pay us for using our airforce to do their job.
The middle east is turning more and more fundamentalist and the west is leading the way.
The ass biting that will come from this will be of epic proportions and we will have no one to blame but ourselves ( of course we will blame others).
The people behind all of this needless violence (I am including the other uprisings in the Arab countries, as well as the war in Iraq and Afghanistan), are the same people who are implementing the New World Order, which from what you have said in your past posts, seem to be in favor of.
Another reason for what happened in Libya was the fact that their Central Bank was not integrated to the private banking cartel of banks that run the world. Hint, North Korea and Iran are other such countries. ;)
Of course, the use of the gold standard is a solution that is suggested in the West as well, by the more intelligent (and not on the take) politicians to reduce the ability of banks from creating money from thin air.
As for Libya selling oil to China and Russia, well god forbid that a sovereign nation decides who to sell its own minerals....:rolleyes:
How could it have anything to do with Democracy, when the countries who most moan about democratic rights, human rights etc. are some of the worst violators of those very rights....LOL!
That may be because they were never allowed to have a clue about democracy, by the very Western powers who claim to be so?
Remember that Iran democratically elected a president in the 1950s. His name was Mossadegh. Once he dared ask for a fairer share of Oil profits for his country and people, he was removed by a CIA (US) and MI6 (UK) orchestrated coup. This is a fact and it is recognized by official history, just like the US backed coups against DEMOCRATICALLY elected leaders in Chile and Brasil in the 1960s.
Of course, Mossadegh was replaced by a young Shah of Iran, whose role was to be a Western puppet. However, as he matured in years, he started thinking for himself and began putting the interests of his country before those of the Colonizers. He decided to not renew the 25 year oil contract - ending in 1979 - that he had signed upon coming to power. He announced his decision in 1974, if memory serves me correctly.
Anyway, his country had one of the strongest economies of the world. He was the best allie the West had in the Middle East (after Israel, of course). However, upon his announcement of his wish not to renew the oil contract, the mechanism to get rid of him started.
Suddenly, we heard in the West that the Shah was a bad dictator who "tortured" his people; violated "human rights" and other over inflated lies. Opposition groups within the country were being funded and supported by the CIA and the MI6. The Ayatollah's message was beamed nightly into Iran through the Iranian language BBC short wave programs.....and more! To cut a long story short, the Shah of Iran fell in 1979!, the same year that his contract was to run out with the West.
Following his fall, the new Islamic regime, ruthlessly slaughtered any possible opposition that could present a counter-revolution. They even did so for years to come outside of Iran in Europe and the US, where they murdered Iranian politicians, intellectuals and etc. Some of the assassins were caught, but apparently none of them were ever imprisoned. Interesting, no?
Shortly after the fall of the Shah, Iraq attacked the militarily weakened Iran. Saddam Hussain the then leader of Iraq, was a US/Western Allie (his time had not come yet!). The war lasted about 10 years, more than a million people were killed, while the Democratic and "Human rights loving" US and her allies, supplied arms to both sides!
I just got into a lot of details to show you and others about the mindset and mentallity of those who run our everyday lives - yes, the same people who preach about Human Rights, Freedom and Democracy at a drop of hat.
IMHO, if the West had not pumped hundreds of millions of dollars in support of fundamentalist Islamic groups and governments ( see - the Iranian "Revolution"; Afghan "Freedom" fighters; the Sheiks in Saudi Arabia, etc,), then the world would not be in this mess.
By the way, if you think that West's support for Islamic Fundamentalism was a mistake, then think again. It was all planned to divide and rule, cause mayhem and control the Middle East, while a black and white "Hollywood" version of the events were constantly presented by the controlled media to the dumbed down population in the West, who are as much victims of this power cabal as the Arabs and the rest of the world, but they just don't know it yet!
With women outnumbering the men in most countries, that may not be bad idea.....:D
Besides, I believe that people should be able to choose. IF a woman is happy marrying a married man, and the wife does not mind, then who am I to stop them? Serious!
If you are suggesting that they are backward by certain standards (because I know that they are ahead of most of the West in others), then you should appreciate the fact that they were kept that way by the West, by the West's support for various Islamic movements referred to before, as well as the so called Islamic Brotherhood (have a read about their history and links with British Intelligence ;) )!
Here is a piece of useful info. No matter what the propaganda you hear tells you, the rise or fall in oil prices are decided in the West and not in the Middle East. ;)
You are right. The Western powers (in their usual pecking order) will steal whatever they can from Libya´s foreign reserves.
Are you talking about someone sitting in the leadership chair in a Western country or someone in a newly "liberated" Arabian country? LOL!
Don't worry, as I am sure that they will be paying for your "help" for decades to come, with their oil, gold and probably thousands of more innocent lives!
I'm so glad folks like you are marginalized to message boards, youtube, and whatever other ghetto internetz you go to to act nuts...
Rant all you want... the grownups are still calling the shots, fortunately.
Most of what you saw in my post is OFFICIAL history. Only the brainwashed and the indoctrinated cannot connect the dots, because they are living in an intellectual Cuckoo Land!
Others don't see the truth that is biting them in the asz because they suffer from, " I am too smart and I would have known about this if this was true", syndrom.
And then there are those who KNOW the truth, but seek to discredit it to somehow preserve the "order", because they believe that they will be getting something out of it.
These last group may include government officials and military (self admitted, intelligence) officers, such as yourself.;)
You wish but unfortunately there is nothing that is more insane than resorting to violence on an industrial level. It has little to do with being adults.
If adults were involved, there would have been diplomatic resolutions to everything, but as everything is based on political rhetoric and retarded intuitive nonsense, we get to have endless wasteful war instead.
But you go ahead and feel smug about it. lol
we'll see who's marginalized when you get home.
Gaddafi sodomized?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/1...n_1028970.html
It is absolutely literal. Unless you have the value of an eye as agreed upon, tehn you may be able to keep yours after putting someone else's out.
Yeah, that crap don't jibe in the civilized world. Oh sure we got our problems, we have criminals, but we don't have judges ordering the removal of body parts or the stoning of women who have been raped and various other heinous activities that go with Sharia law in the Islamic world.
seriously, we cannot relate, at all. Why would these folk relate to us? They can't. When they do, they leave there and come here!
totally off topic but i dont want to make a new thread....what would happen if someone with some WMD targeted the polar ice caps? like some force hell bent on massive world destruction....why target any countries themselves. whos guarding the poles?
no fer reals!!!! do you think that would flood the crap out of us?
good! because you never know when dr. evil will strike!
Rouge states with nuclear weapons are great for stories but no really a reality in the real world, for one reason a rouge state would be danger to ALL nations with nuclear power and that is a LOT of nukes aimed at one rouge state.
For another reason, the monitoring of nuclear weapons is something that ALL nations are very anal about.
You touch upon a very important topic, and that is the topic of target selection. If these terrorists really existed and they were not some organizations created by our own intelligence agencies to selectively terrorize us, they would have plenty of targets to blow up.
Look at the "hijack and crashing or exploding airplanes in mid air threat". Why should a real terrorist bother? I mean all the planning and risk, when they could walk into any public place and blow themselves up?
I will tell you why. The reason is that our own governments who are hell bent on terrorizing us and herding us towards accepting being part of regional dictatorships, by taking away our freedoms, are not too slowly implementing control mechanisms.
Take airport safety for example, why should a "terrorist" attempt to take small sharp objects into a plane, when he can buy a bottle of whisky in the duty free and then smash it inside a plane and use the glass to cut people. He can even use the alcohol content of the bottle to set the aircraft on fire, 30 thousand feet up in the air. Now, if you and I know of tha possibility then I am sure that our security agencies who "care" so much and want to "protect" us, know it too. But of course, airport security has nothing to do with protecting people, it has to do with getting them used to being controlled and subtely give their rights away.
Yes, air travel is a good place to start. Once they have their eye scanners, intrusive X ray machines and their full body searches fully accepted by the public, then don't be surprised that bombs start going off in other transport facilities such as bus or train stations (read, False Flag).
We will be told that the "successful" security measures in airports have resulted in the "Terrorists" using easier targets. Then the same type of security measures will be installed in your local subway, bus stations etc. to "protect" us.
Then of course, when the population's movements are fully controlled, bombs will go off in shopping malls, cinemas etc. We will be told that the "Terrorists" are aiming at still easier targets. This will result in more expanded security measures.
Soon, people won't be able to bend over to tie their shoe laces without some government agency sticking a camera up their butts, just in case they are "terrorists" planning to launch a missile from their rear ends!
Of course, people who wake up and criticize this trespass on their rights and freedoms, will be called nut job tin hat wearing "conspiracy" theorists, or worse, treated like terrorists, because "if they are not with us, then they are with them, hence against us!" doctrine, which every self respecting dictatorship worth its salt, has implemented during recent history.
The whole "war on terrorism" and the other "wars", such as the one on Drugs, etc, are games, but we the population, are never going to be the winners, if we keep giving our minds away to these psychopathic control systems.