Looks like the kung fu weapon of choice back in the Motherland of Kung Fu is----baseball bats. They are popular in Taiwan too.
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...,6271961.story
Tiger Claw should start carrying a line.
take care,
Brian
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Looks like the kung fu weapon of choice back in the Motherland of Kung Fu is----baseball bats. They are popular in Taiwan too.
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...,6271961.story
Tiger Claw should start carrying a line.
take care,
Brian
they're all filled with cork. they must be the sammy sosa limited edition.
Any bat forms to post? :D;)
Props to Master Chen Sitan for such a high profile demo.
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Chinese Kungfu kicks off New York Mets
Updated: 2013-09-15 05:30
By Hu Haidan and Amy He (chinadaily.com.cn)
The 5th annual An Evening of Chinese Culture hit Citi Field, the home of the New York Mets baseball team, on the evening of a game against the Miami Marlins on Friday.
The event featured kungfu and taichi performances from over 200 participants, led by 2-time world champion winner SitanChan and Chinese ribbon dance.
An Evening of Chinese Culture was sponsored by the Sino-American Friendship Association and the Sino-American Culture and Arts Foundation, created to give baseball fans insight into China through the country’s traditional cultural forms.
Among the dignitaries present were Sun Guoxiang, Chinese Consul General in New York, Peter Koo, Council Member of Queens, Margaret Lam, board of director of the New Jersey Chinese-American Chamber of Commerce, LuoDePaoli, executive vice president of the Mets, Xu Yaping, Director of China National Tourist Office in New York, Peter Zhang, President of Sino-American Friendship Association and Li Li, executive vice president of Sino-American Friendship Association and president of Sino-American Culture & Arts Foundation.
Sun threw the ceremonial first pitch for the game.
"I think a Chinese culture night will facilitate a culturalexchange between Chinese and Americans," said Sun. "Having a kungfu performance before the game is a wonderful way to promote Chinese culture," he added.
Li Li, executive vice president of Sino-American Friendship Association and president of Sino-American Culture & Arts Foundation, said it is a wonderful night for Chinese culture meets Western sport.
"I believe that language can be a barrier, but music and culture can meet and communicate without barrier and beyond boarders," Li said.
Koo, council member of Queens also attended the culture night.
"Flushing has the highest concentration of Asian-Americans in New York, so here is a great place to host culture event like this," he said.
The China National Tourism Office (CNTO) has been supporting the An Evening of Chinese Culture for three years.
Throughout the game, a video provided by the CNTO featuring China’s natural landscapes was shown throughout the stadium.
The event was hosted to coincide with Mid-Autumn Festival, which takes place on the 15th day of the eighth-month on the Chinese lunar calendar. It is one of the most important holidays in Chinese culture when family members gather for celebrations that include carrying lanterns, performing dances and eating pastries named moon cakes.
Many US officials sent congratulatory letters to support the event, including ones from mayor Bloomberg ofNew York, governor Chris Christie of New Jersey, and governor Dannel Malloy of Connecticut, among others.
Using a club is pretty standard form throughout time. A Baseball bat is a ready made easy to get club.
Like a machete is a ready made, easy to get broadsword... :)
If impromptu conflict is upon you, it's likely you won't have time to pick up your antique weapons...
You mean you don't carry a guandao around with you? You're just not taking this seriously. :p
This is better.
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__...Spiked_bat.jpg
Bats are top heavy, designed for one blow, like an executioner's sword. If you swing and strike, it's difficult to follow up.
Do you prefer hardwood or alloy? Have you advanced to twin bat yet?
:D
i just thought i would do my civic duty and let you guys know about these things called batons. they are like bats, but they dont suck. :eek:
http://www.kotulas.com/wcsstore/Kotu.../199190_lg.jpg
well sheet if we're going illegal just carry a machete understrapped to your back!
Hardwood. I have an awesome little league louisville. Perfect. Heavy enough, but light enough.
Lucas, I have a few of those extendable batons. They are cool in some situations, horrible in others. Not the most structurally sound club out there. So if you wanna walk on somebody and take out their legs, maybe a quick swipe to the head, they work great. More than that, not so reliable. I found out the hard way. Shoulda known.
Jimbo, They aren't illegal in Canada, so it surprises me that they are in the US. You can have an AR but not a piece of shit baton? What if it doesn't collapse? Maybe it's illegal for the same reasons butterfly knives are illegal in canada... none of which make much sense.
heh heh. That made my day being able to call FOUL on Lucas again. :) Our forum sponsor MartialArtsMart.com carries Tokushu Keibo (collapsible batons for the uneducated martial artist). MAM carries two styles: manual and automatic. And at this posting, they are illegal in California, Massachusetts, and New York. They might not be illegal in Canada, but they cannot be shipped across the border.
I completely agree.
If I wasn't in California, WHERE THEY ARE ILLEGAL, I might have a few of those myself. But I don't. I can't even buy them from out of the Tiger Claw warehouse, where our office is housed. :(
But what do you mean by you found out the hard way? Do tell....
I broke it. Nuff said.
That's funny. Cause I had to get my butterfly knives from cali. Life is weird like that. Some laws make no sense. What if you have a non collapsible baton? Or a nigh stick? Do you need to have a baseball glove near a bat to make it legal? Some of these bandaid laws baffle me. We go after the effect and ignore the cause. Seems like such a waste of time. If they did both, ok cool, but that's not what's happening.
Yup, CA has some really stupid laws. Automatic knives (switchblades) with a blade over 2", any butterfly knife (bali song), sap, or nunchaku are also illegal here. I'm actually surprised CA even allows switchblades with 2" or under blades, considering how unreasonable so many of the laws are. But really, a knife is a knife; regardless of how it opens, once it's open it's just another knife. And nunchaku! How many people have done a drive-by nunchuking??
There may be some states that allow civilians to carry collapsible batons. I know that switchblades (and probably butterfly knives too) are legal in some states.
:eek:bro! :eek:
I don't understand it either. I can kill someone with a bic pen, Melted plastic shaved down jail style, a piece of metal that is somewhat pointy, a sharpened spoon, whatever. If people want to cause harm, they will. Man, sharp anything will make a decent weapon on the fly. And that's not even getting into blunt objects. If I walk around with a rock in my hand, is that illegal because it can be a weapon? What if I just think it's a cool rock?
That's funny about the butterfly knives, cause I got mine in chinatown in SF when I was staying in SJ. They were on full display, not some under the table type thing. Maybe the law wasn't around back then? It was quite awhile ago now.
There is another irony. We can have(and I do) spring loaded blades, but only the folding kind. Which is weird because everything I look at says they are illegal, yet they are commonly sold all over. So I dunno. Some info I found said you can have spring assist, but it has to be initiated manually. So mine doesn't have a button like the 50's greaser style ones we see in movies, mine has a small trigger behind where the blade meets the handle and it gives it just enough of a nudge that the spring does the rest. Maybe that's the difference? If it is, that's just stupid. A button = illegal but I guess they found a way to circumvent the law because of how it was worded and nobody has bothered to make an amendment? I dunno. They are all stupid laws to me. But I come from an engineers perspective. If I can't buy it I'll just make it and so that makes me wonder what the point is... ya know? I realize not everyone is able to do some of these things, but many weapons are basic and simple. I mean, you can make a rudimentary gun with ease. It may not be an AR, but it will still kill. Or just backfire on you, but to me that's just natural selection at its best.
I think Lucas did a drive by nunchucking. Heard he took down a whole crew!
actually I do know of a drive by clubbing, ball bat out the window style. It wasn't a good look for the guy on the receiving end.
I think people are just intimidated by the flashier weapons. I can open my butterflies in a few different ways, I can throw them in the air closed and catch the mid spin opened, one in each hand, but that's just for kicks. None of it is useful in a fight. It's just a blunt weapon till it's open, just like any other folding or retracting blade. People have some weird irrational fears. A butterfly knife is illegal, but a hunting knife is not? That's just stupid!
Maybe they banned the chucks cause too many kids were coming to the ER needing stitches in the back of the head, lol. I made a nice pair on the lathe with really fine steel rope between them. I drilled through the end about 3/4 of an inch from the end and then drilled down the top to meet the other hole so that the rope comes out of the top. They have served me well. I was a lil battered at first from getting over excited, but now I can throw two around with ease. Tracers!!! That being said, I'd rather have a bat. I don't really like them as a weapon. Like the butterfly knives, I just did it cause I can and it seemed neat at the time. Now they sit on a shelf with the rest of my toys that I never use anymore right next to the butterflies.
Syn,
Assisted-opening knives are indeed legal here because, as you say, you have to initiate the opening to about 30 degrees or so before the spring assist kicks in. I own a few knives like that (from ZT/Kershaw), but to be honest, they just sit on a dresser. I carry a manual-opening Spyderco. I don't see any advantages to automatics or assisted-openers, as there's more to foul up, wear out or break. Simple is better, IMO. :)
I might add that I carry the Spyderco as a utility blade, not as a weapon. When you realize how useful a knife is day to day, you wonder how you got along without one.
Totally agree. I've had them open on me when I didn't want them to. They do have a lock on them, but they are mechanically unreliable if you don't remove that feature. But when you do that, they can open in your pocket, or when bumped or dropped. I agree, simple is better. I have two main blades I carry. One is a folding knife I use as a tool, and I have a sheathed blade that is strictly used as a weapon(happy to say never been used for that reason). I do not carry the sheathed blade unless I'm out in the bush. Or I guess feel threatened in some way and feel I should have it. I used to just leave it in the glove box. Now it hangs off my workbench. I have a spyderco too, great tool. Between that and a leatherman I keep in my kit, I'm good to go. My leatherman is pretty sweet, It has the wire stripper/plier combo. The plier part is kind of like a needlenose and lineman hybrid. Served me well. I can't imagine not having it now. It's not actually a real leatherman, it was a gift and I have no idea what the brand is, but it's pretty durable.
Quick release leather belts with heavy metal buckles are very popular here , easy to carry and useful - I've seen a lot of people playing with these....
http://www.everystevenseagalmovie.co...mer-man-18.jpg
Credit cards kill.
Weapons are illegal when they are concealable. This is a completely logical law. It should be this way.
If you have to mess around opening a blade 30 percent of the way before it flicks, then you pretty much have to carry it already open if you intend to use it suddenly. If weapons are obvious, they are not as dangerous because people can see it coming. Butterfly knives come out of nowhere, they open fast.
If someone is holding a knife in front of you there are ways to escape. If they brush past you and stab you in the kidneys without you even seeing the knife, that is more dangerous.
I know there are ways around all this, but by making it illegal we make the very concept of hidden weapons distasteful in peoples minds. This is a good thing. It doesn't stop the criminals but it helps us know who the criminals are.
Part of the reason no one outside the continent of America understands their gun laws. Sure we get you need shotguns and hunting rifles for bears and stuff.... But why handguns?
Although I don't favor them, the assisted-opening folders open very fast. You push a thumb stud or "flipper" with one hand, and the assisted-opening feature takes over. It's one smooth motion. Have you ever handled one? You don't need to carry it open. They can be open and ready faster than a butterfly knife. But they are not necessarily designed to play a weapon role. It's designed for convenience (and perhaps a degree of novelty). Most folding knives are used for mundane cutting tasks.
But TBH, I can flick open a Spyderco one-handed as fast or faster than an assisted-opener, if I really feel like it (I never need to for daily cutting chores so I don't). Plus, doing that too much can cause premature wear on the locking mechanism.
Oh, I see. Does it still come out of the side though? I.e how fast can you go from a closed knife to stabbing into something, do you need to change grip?
Right, I get it. There will always be ways around it. But making these things illegal does help, it puts the concept into the social consciousness. This has a large impact on peoples behaviour. Plus some stupid kid is not gonna think that kinda knife is cool, but a butterfly knife, thats awesome. Theres more potential for danger.
If so may you have mercy on us all, you could pierce our skulls like peanut shells with those mini lightsabers.
RenDaHai:
So long as the knife laws here don't become as restrictive as those in the U.K. Some of which are ridiculous. As Syn said, even if you restrict everything, people will always find a way with whatever objects are around. Simply outlawing everything that *could* be dangerous isn't the answer. There are much deeper societal issues that must be addressed. Otherwise, we should ban cars, as people cause more deaths and destruction with them every year than almost anything else.
No but it is important to attach a much social stigma as possible to these things. It makes people aware of the danger.
I think we should massively change road laws. Living in China for many years I have seen the worst of driving and horrific accidents. It is such an unnatural death. Cars can be more dangerous than guns. But look at the laws governing cars. They are many and constantly watched. I don't think we go far enough. It angers me that we can make an iPad but yet we can't make a safer set of road laws or safer cars for pedestrians.
To be honest, I wouldn't want to fight with any folding knife. I mean, if you have to, okay, but it would be my last choice for obvious reasons. Anyone who handles knives know what I'm talking about. Stuff happens. Parts fail. It's just not a good look.
The spring blade is fast, it will be open long before you can raise your hand. But that's true with most lock blades with the thumb stud. The emerson wave is pretty fast too, but it will destroy your pocket.
Ren: I disagree with the stigma comment. Not entirely, but in part. I hear what your saying and I respect the sentiment. But we have to be more pragmatic about these things. We should work on the fix, not the bandaid. Knives and guns aren't even in the same league. Just like fishing line isn't in a knifes league, yet can be deadly. As for guns, I'm all for controls and SOME limitations, but an outright ban is simply out of the question. You will never keep all the guns from all the bad guys, but you can do a lot to make sure those who do possess them legally have the necessary knowledge to handle, maintain and store them properly. And even then, you will still have to deal with the idiot factor, but that's just a fact of life. Guns aren't going anywhere. Every day they become more accessible and easier to fabricate. We need to look at this from a different angle. No point in trying to dam a river with your hands. That's when you think up some more creative solutions. Try new ideas.
As for conceal comment, well, lots of people carry knives and you just don't see them. I clip mine on my pocket and I'm not really worried about people seeing it or not, but I could just as easily drop it in my pocket. It would be no less legal and no less dangerous. What does it matter how it opens? If you don't want kids to play with weapons, then educate them... en masse.
As for cars, they will be driving themselves in your lifetime. Much safer that way. Just think, you can sleep on your way to work! :D
Let me give you an example. In China there might as well be no laws governing road use. It is an absolute disaster, and when there are not enforced guidelines no one thinks about it and what is safe.
When you are crossing a pedestrian crossing on a green light (for you) you do not expect a vehicle to be driving on the wrong side of the road and crossing the red light and not paying any attention to you. Yet this happens every time I cross the road.
This would not happen in the west and if it did, everyone nearby would be angry, this social stigma is what stops it happening. Everyone considers it wrong because they have grown up with this law. Here its the driver who gets angry that you went in front of them. Wtf??
When you have lots of laws governing this behaviour people grow up with them and the laws ARE the education. They think about these things. Because they don't have these laws in China, no one thinks about them and everyone is a bad driver.
If everyone was sensible and educated, then you don't need any laws what so ever.
These laws ARE part of the fix, it IS the education. Another social fix will take generations. The bandaid can be put on today.
Yes... but you don't ban the cars. Follow me? That genie is out of the bottle. You make rules and educate everyone who drives as to how it works and why and penalize offenders. That's all well and good. Now just transfer that argument to weapons because that was what I was referring to, not the car thing. I sympathize with the driving problem in china, but quite frankly, that's just not an issue where I live. I have no issue with our driving laws. We get permits, we get insured, we take care to not plow through crowds. All in all we do ok considering the amount of stupid we have up in here. You hear how high accident fatalities are and people think "wow". Not me, I think we're lucky it's not a shit show like where you're at. We do pretty well under the circumstances. But we still lose our heads over other issues and I think "security" is one of those issues. If people don't push back, then it will become the norm(like you said) and the next generations won't realize what they have lost. I don't support pre crime regulation, but I do support some level of balanced regulation. Big difference between the two though.