Does anybody know this. Some day I want to try. Its said to be the ancestor of all internal martial arts, (forerunner to Tai Chi and stuff). anyone know more about it?
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Does anybody know this. Some day I want to try. Its said to be the ancestor of all internal martial arts, (forerunner to Tai Chi and stuff). anyone know more about it?
wudang quan or wudang neijia quan is quite nice...give it a try, definitely...
Don't believe too much in Zhang San Feng and "Wudang is the ancestor of all internal styles" stuffs though :-)
..and some skillful warriors are starting to come down off that mountain.Wudang sources
It has gained alot more since the 'crouching tiger funny dragon' epic of Ang Lee. Changed alot since the years past I was there, alot more Masters appearing in the area, many young ones teaching anything and everything. Not to mention new styles being made up as well.
However there are some excellent Qigong teachers in the area and the feeling is wonderful. Cool(and COOOOld at the moment) atmosphere. China has an abundance of nice mountains.
BTW, the capital of Hubei, Wuhan is an excellent city and many martial arts teachers are also establishing themselves there.
However, try to find a specific system. Many people know 'Wudang' it is just like 'Shaolin' a name ....so make sure they are specific.
Cheers.
A friend told me that it is possible (since one year or so) to train in th Wudang monastry as in Shaolin. I know in Shaolin there are only schools around the temple and that they are HELL expensive.
How is it in Wudang?
Lads,
I'm looking for some recommendations on Wudang...books, websites, youtube...etc. I'm did a base search and keep getting lots of martial tourist sites. I'm interested in Daoism and the Internal Martial side of things...I don't know much about it other than than its a Mountain Side martial arts school that was known for its swordsmanship...and focused on Xing Yi, Bagua, Tai Chi and Daoist thought. I'm also am pretty ignorant about those styles as well.
Were they monks like Shaolin? Is it one place or several places like Shaolin? Were they rivals? Why was it founded? What were the weapons they used? Did they practice a particular style of Tai Chi....yadda yadda yadda.
Any insight would be appreciated.
taichi, xingyi, and bagua did not come from wudang. many wudang schools teach it just to make money.
wudang has genuine sword and meditation tradition, but no bare hand fighting.
wudang shaolin rivalry started when some guy learned kung fu from shaolin temple, left because of politics, then talked trash about shaolin and made up his own style, attributing it to wudang.
I often see it as shaolin redressed in many respects.
I think that what we see as "wudang" nowadays is mostly shaolin with some of the three internal arts worked in with it.
But yes, I understand they have Taoist meditations and a sword practice all their own.
I am not really aware of it being a long unbroken lineage or an organized system across borders or any of that.
But I do think it is heavily flavoured with shaolin kung fu.
Good to know...I didn't think they developed those martial arts there, just that they specialized in or taught them. So it is tourist trap...*******s.
From the pics I've seen, the place is gorgeous...I used to live in Tahoe for a couple of years...so always had an affinity for the mountains.
some guy who teaches here and went to wudang told me he paid 300 dollars an hour to learn qigong.
i learned the same thing from ymca. just giving you a heads up.
just to clear up any confusion, the correct terms for warrior monks, taoist or buddhist are monk soldiers. monk soldiers were famous for having unbreakable morale. where normal soldiers break and run when one third or half is dead, monk soldiers will fight to the last man. it has nothing to with fighting skill.
Bing Shifu here in L.A. comes recommended. Maybe not good enough to charge you $300/hour. . .
http://www.kungfumagazine.com/magazi...hp?article=809
never trust anyone that can do a deep cross leg stance. that means they have small balls. would you learn fighting from someone with small balls? other than tito ortiz?
LOL, well I'm not going anytime soon, if I did it would be as a tourist or for fun. I'm looking for start some internal style stuff here locally next month...I came across Bagua and Xing Yi, Wudang in my search of Tai Chi...just peaked my curiosity.
Thanks for the info Bawang.
Didn't Shaolin's Monk Soldiers study both Buddhist and Taoist thought? Or did certain schools teach one or the other? It would be very interesting to see Monk Soldiers fighting in mass formations...in the movies its usually just a one or a handful of them fighting together.
it makes you vulnerable to piranhas.
this is the only realistic depiction of battlefield fighting i have ever found
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26C75...eature=related
I picked this up for sh!ts and grins. I think it's kind've cool.
As for Wudang, we've put out a lot of research on the topic. There are three issues that focused on it specifically.
2002 September/October focused on internal power & longevity.
2003 September/October was dubbed a Tai Chi Special, and featured the first English interview with Zhong Yuan Long.
2009 March/April was our Wudang Special (wenshu posted a link to that cover story above).
There's more in my book, Shaolin Trips (which makes a fine holiday gift, btw), as I discuss my detour into Wudang.
To receive a personally autographed edition of my book, you must contact Leslie and order through Tiger Claw retail (see Shaolin Trips). Leslie can be reached at 510-656-5100 X114.
And that my friends, is how Shaolin totally hijacks a Wudang thread. :cool:
One of my old students just got back from 2 month at Wu Dang mountain temple, no internal training, but a lot of external training and drinking. Not a luxury stay either.
Only if you're a Kabbalist.
Now Valhalla - that's the place to be. Wenches, Mead, Warriors all partying for all eternity. Well at least until Ragnarok. Then they battle the fierce frost giants in the epic end of all wars and ultimately go out in a blaze of glory.
and that's how the Vikings hijack a Hebrew thread.
There's actually a ton of research to be done in Wudang. We've only just begun to scratch the surface. I was only there once and have pretty much published everything I gleaned from that short visit already in the aforementioned mags (and book - don't forget the book!) There's some Wudang disciples here in America now, and I've been tapping them to provide more. I would love to do another Wudang special, but frankly, that previous one delivered only a mediocre performance on the newsstands and it was a lot of work to put together. I think it was premature. Despite CTHD and the Wu-Tang Clan, Wudang is only marginally understood here in the states. I don't think the tai chi theme park will help much.
And that my friends, is how a thread is put back OT. :cool:
Here is a CCTV three part show on Wudang Kung Fu...for those of you playing at home.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i389f...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=boK4OP_-Pfg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnA-7...eature=related
I love the mountain.
So what did they think of your light saber?
I don't own one but I'm certain to get the tiger claw hook up as per usual?
I'll take doubles in the master kit complete with DVD;)
The mountain is spectacularly beautiful, a true natural wonder. When I trained there I loved spending my downtime hiking in the mountains and swimming in secluded rivers.
I think it's wrong to describe Wudang Kung Fu as a tourist trap, it's A) very good Kung Fu and B) not especially expensive. Historical greyness aside the forms are really nice, with their own distinct flavour (and certainly nothing like Shaolin), training is hard, and certainly when I was there we did a mix of Qigong, Taiji, external Ji Ben Gong and meditation, along with whatever style we were studying.
I just found my wife on a CCTV documentary! :D :eek: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbMnT...eature=related (she's learning Taiji at 8:30)
I studied Liang Yi Quan at Wudang, which is one of the really distinctive styles taught there http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6T4y0pfyZI
It's beautiful.
Reeks of history.
Incredible energies.
Golden top and Purple heaven are must see.
If you go see if you can find someone to take you to the hidden stone Bagua. I had an amazing conversation with the old Preist who tends the small temple there. Also the hike out to the tea house at crows nest is very rewarding.
...but nothing for jedis. I'm so ashamed. :o
Wudang, like any venerated mountain in China, is breathtakingly spectacular. To describe it as a tourist trap is like describing Yosemite as a tourist trap. Sure, there are lots of tourists, but an ancient Chinese mountain is a natural wonder. If you're stuck behind tourists, you just don't know how to get off the beaten path.
Then again, there's the theme park...:rolleyes:
Speaking of beaten path I remember being in one of those gondola at Wu Dang almost at the top when I looked down at "the stairs" and there was some dude walking up a billion stairs to Golden Palace!