Hi folks, Sifu Leo Au Yeung has made a new wing chun short film. Have a peek:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_daD9qgQ-s
Any comment appreciated.
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Hi folks, Sifu Leo Au Yeung has made a new wing chun short film. Have a peek:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_daD9qgQ-s
Any comment appreciated.
......a good reference to how not to do it me thinks.
Nothing to do with PB. Even if I were not a student of Philipp I would still question a lot of stuff that is written on this forum. Why?....because I don't think half of it would work in a real fight. Some of you guys live in dream land and if I had to guess most of you have never been in a real street fight in your lives. The ones that have appreciate how most of the stuff that is generally taught in Wing Chun McDojos is pointless nonsense and only fools the people practicing it into thinking their Wing Chun will work against somebody that doesn't care about style. They just want to rip your f***ing head off.
That's my opinion.
You are no different than any other McDojo. If its not from Philip Bayer, you automatically claim it won't work in real fights, based on nothing but your rumours about street fights and mindless insults to other Wing Chun teachers. I understand your doing your best to promote your branch.
The fact is Mr Au Yeung is one of the teachers out there using his trade to work in other contexts, as you can see on his video where he trains Muay Thai in Thailand, etc.
I fully appreciate Philipp Bayer as a teacher of Wing Chun. However his keyboard warriors collection of students don't do him any favours. Please stick to facts and reality, not so called "real fight" myths.
I fully appreciate Philipp Bayer as a teacher of Wing Chun. However his keyboard warriors collection of students don't do him any favours. Please stick to facts and reality, not so called "real fight" myths
Yeah. I've said this several times already on other threads, but I'll say it again. I don't think PB himself would be happy with the way in which he and his teaching are being represented here. These guys have succeeded in giving PB's lineage a bad name here. Because if his attitude is anything like the guys here that post in his name, I wouldn't want anything to do with him. I don't think I'm the only one that has reached this conclusion.
This forum would be much less entertaining without the disagreements that come from having the PB guys here. I also think most people would be disingenuous if they claimed that they have got no ideas from the PB stuff communicated here. It has certainly clarified some of my thoughts about wing chun.
I accept that Graham and others do troll a bit but what do you expect when the reaction is so negative?
Just once, just once i would like someone to back up such a claim with a video of THEIR lineage (you know the real thing) actually working against someone trying to rip their head off, and not some pointless non contact chi sao clips
So far other then endless.... talk we havent seen a single clip of PB wing chun doing anything against someone who can actually fight its fcking amazing
Have we seen a clip of your wing chun against someone who can actually fight? I think I remember a clip of you cuddling some guy in a ring but it looked more friendly than serious. Why does everyone feel the need to demand clips when they haven't provided any of their own?
No clips of me cuddling in a ring, a few clips of me competing in grappling and one floating around of light Thai stuff...which is more than we have gotten of you :)
By the way do you enjoy holding their jock straps for them :) I'm not making claims that what everyone else does in wing chun is crap and my lineage has the real stuff...if i did i would post clips....
Matter of fact I've made the claim that most wing chun including what i do is limited and not very good as a stand alone art, and I've yet to see anything posted that changes this view :)
Oh! So you're saying that PB DOES share the attitude of his followers here? You're saying that PB also pushes the line that out of all the people that Wong Chun Leung taught through the years he is the ONLY one that got it right??? Then its no wonder he gets the same reaction! And if true, again..makes me think I don't want anything to do with him.
It is frustrating trying to explain anything here. It seems if you happen to practice PBVT you are seen as some kind of offensive ogre. "the PB brigade" or whatever.:rolleyes:
The problem is in the presentation. You can't expect to post inflammatory things saying how someone is "way off the mark" or someone " doesn't know Wing Chun" just because they have a different interpretation or understanding and NOT expect to get a backlash effect. You have to use a little tack, politeness, and respect...which seems to be greatly lacking in many of the PB followers who post here.
The problem is you try to explain something and people take offence, not because the post is offensive per se, but simply because it contradicts common VT misconceptions, practiced and taught by many here.
That may have happened on occassion and be true to a small extent. But all of the encounters on threads I have been involved with here recently the problem is what I mentioned above.
When challenged, you go into some detail, and people then simply add WSLPB ideas to theirs, and then say PBVT is missing their stuff?
That's true, and a tougher issue. We're all here to talk about Wing Chun and learn something from each other (well, most of us at least). When you post a detailed explanation, don't you expect people to be able to learn something from what you write? But to pretend the info was something they knew all along is wrong.
You quickly reach a point where you dont want to bother to explain PBVT. Its just not worth the hassle, and you end up just rolling your eyes and posting criticism, where you see the mistakes.
What's the old saying?...."If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all!" Getting frustrated and posting short negative comments on multiple threads as Graham did recently gains you nothing but dislike.
Here ya go. Here's what PB wing chun is like in a somewhat full-contact setting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I4eaxvw5m4
Oops, my bad.
I guess this is a more accurate description of whatt PB wing chun is like in a somewhat full-contact setting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDqSRN_ZDWk
i was addressing guy b but since you popped up, are any of those clips hard sparring sessions, or actual fighting....doesnt have to be you just PB lineage so we can see why its so special...because drilling and light non contact stuff is not what im talking about.....
He already posted this on another thread about what he considers to be a good representation of PB methods in sparring.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDqSRN_ZDWk