The new threads are boring. No depth level discussion any more. Have we run out of meaningful discussion subjects?
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The new threads are boring. No depth level discussion any more. Have we run out of meaningful discussion subjects?
Greetings,
It is the new color scheme of the forum. As Gene wrote earlier, it is colder. For me, it goes much beyond that. It is like being in a room with one thousand air conditioners on full blast.
mickey
Don't like the new forum layout either. Readability on the previous one was better for me, so I don't put as much effort in looking around now.
Perhaps its a reflection of the state of the martial arts?
In another forum, someone started a thread with a clip. I asked what did he want to discuss. He said that he didn't want to discuss anything, but to show that clip and hope that someone will be interested in it. I assume the same thing also happen to other forums. May be all the subjects that are worthwhile to discuss has been discussed.
How many times do we have to re-visit:
- The difference between TCMA and MMA?
- Is BJJ good for street fight?
- Personal weight training program?
- Should one cross train?
- What's the best cross training systems?
- Self-defense vs. sport?
- What's the purpose of the form?
- Which WC system is the best?
- Should a Taiji guy lean?
- Does Aikido work?
- ...
Actually, the issue with this forum is as follows:
Scenario 1
New Poster: Hey guys! I just started "___________" Kung Fu and I'm so glad to be here to discuss Kung Fu with other Kung Fu Bros!
The Usual Suspects: "_________" Kung Fu? Never heard of it, it is obviously fake and you are fake and you are dumb please leave
New Poster: But... but... Kung fu?
TUS: Tits or GTFO
Scenario 2
New/regular poster: Hey guys, check out this vid of me doing this form/sparring/practicing it's a little rough but it shows what I'm working on
TUS: Your form is wrong, whoever taught it to you is wrong and should die / you spar like a 12 year old blind girl, you would die in a fight
New/Regular Poster: Well I don't see how the form is wrong i've seen tons of people doing it this way / I think I was sparring pretty good, the guy was also good
TUS: No you suck and Kung Fu is not for you
Scenario 3
New Poster/Regular Poster: Hey guys, look at this set and applications let's discuss
TUS: Kung Fu is useless in real life even though this is a kung fu forum and we also train kung fu but we know it's just for fun and getting to wear silky suits, we train in BJJ and boxing for our real fighting. Your life is a lie please leave.
That's why this forum is mostly dead. But hey, at least that hot chicks with swords thread still exists. Until you guys stop letting these detractors rule this place, you're never going to get back to meaningful kung fu/taiji/whatever discussion here.
I'd say it is indeed to new format, not as warm, actually harder to read, and I guess anything new = harder to function....
The place was closed so long people realised that real life is better than argueing on the internet with strangers :)
The problem is rudeness of some people.when you open make effort and open a topic or ask something they will tell you check old threads or tell you that doesn't make sense.
There is much to do if they stop it.
I personally have posted less for a few reasons.
1) Better things to do ( sacrilegious, I know).
2) Too much of the same old BS that I am just tired of arguing about.
3) Too much preaching to the choir at times.
4) frustration ( which goes back to #2 I guess).
I love this forum and have come to consider many of you not only as friends but also as teachers and I am forever grateful.
Truly.
People generally don't do well with change. The new format probably confuses people. It's probably harder to read for many. People will get used to it, and old schoolers will come back after the holidays if they remember to check. I'm sure a few thought that it was just down for good. It was offline for awhile and I could be wrong, but there was no real notice or explanation before hand. At least I never saw one.
Personally, I like the new format. Some cool new features.
It was a lot to move. Our forum is obese. Plus we've overhauled all of KungFuMagazine.com, which we're also still sorting.
But when it's all done, we'll be good to go for several years.
You've notice that we haven't been crashing lately, right? That was a huge issue which we hope has been resolved.
How hard would it be to make the line between post and sig a lil more defined?
Also how bout making quotes back to normal script? The italicized quotes is kinda redundant considering the big speech bubble around it, and it makes quoting larger pieces more complicated when they have both normal and italicized words within.
Just suggestions. Either way, I like the overhaul. I didn't think you guys would do it after I said you should get with the new and you responded with "we play with swords man!". lol. The perfect come back, for sure. But I'm glad it's done. You guys should be good for another 30 years now, no? :p
Me like the feature with video in a big way.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5YjRiR0Lh4
:cool:
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Quote Originally Posted by Orion Paximus View Post
Actually, the issue with this forum is as follows:
Scenario 1
New Poster: Hey guys! I just started "___________" Kung Fu and I'm so glad to be here to discuss Kung Fu with other Kung Fu Bros!
The Usual Suspects: "_________" Kung Fu? Never heard of it, it is obviously fake and you are fake and you are dumb please leave
New Poster: But... but... Kung fu?
TUS: Tits or GTFO
Scenario 2
New/regular poster: Hey guys, check out this vid of me doing this form/sparring/practicing it's a little rough but it shows what I'm working on
TUS: Your form is wrong, whoever taught it to you is wrong and should die / you spar like a 12 year old blind girl, you would die in a fight
New/Regular Poster: Well I don't see how the form is wrong i've seen tons of people doing it this way / I think I was sparring pretty good, the guy was also good
TUS: No you suck and Kung Fu is not for you
Scenario 3
New Poster/Regular Poster: Hey guys, look at this set and applications let's discuss
TUS: Kung Fu is useless in real life even though this is a kung fu forum and we also train kung fu but we know it's just for fun and getting to wear silky suits, we train in BJJ and boxing for our real fighting. Your life is a lie please leave.
That's why this forum is mostly dead. But hey, at least that hot chicks with swords thread still exists. Until you guys stop letting these detractors rule this place, you're never going to get back to meaningful kung fu/taiji/whatever discussion here.
This is exactly why the forum is suffering!
In truth, we're still averaging 70+ viewers at any given moment during the day. And we still pop up on web searches whenever you're looking for almost anything Kung Fu and/or Tai Chi oriented. It's all good.
The one trend I've noticed since the update is that we seem to have more lurkers and less posters now. That's fine by me. It's the same amount of page views, which is really the bottom line on the wild wild web. And most of you don't have anything worthwhile to say anyway. :eek:
;)
. . . is it getting warmer in here?
[QUOTE=Orion Paximus;1258488]Actually, the issue with this forum is as follows:
Scenario 1
Scenario 2
Scenario 3
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Scenario 1: Unfriendly to the new comer.
Scenario 2: Trying to find bone in an egg.
Scenario 3: Lacking faith in TCMA.
People just like to argue no matter what.
- If you say, "It's good to have leg strength to be able to lift your opponent's body off the ground."
- People would say, "If done properly you don't need to apply much force to complete the throw."
- If you say, "If done properly you don't need to apply much force to complete the throw."
- People would say, "To against a big and strong opponent, you will need that extra strength."
No matter what you may say, for those people who will never agree with you, they will find a way to prove that you are wrong.
I can understand why people try to stay away from online discussion. When a 20 years old asks you, "How long have you trained MA?" If you don't answer that question, your are rude. If you do answer that question, you may feel that you are pushed around by a 20 years old.
I like to think of it as trial by fire.
And what, pray tell, do you know about refraction that can't be found "by simply researching scientific record"?
I don't know Gene. In Oz the Chinese arts are not so well received or that popular. We are getting the MMA wave at the moment even though that is now attracting a great deal of bad press and several doctors speaking out against same.
I cannot really comment on the USA scene other than that witnessed here ... that being said ... What I'm seeing is not all that great. Very little real discussion, more clowns than a circus and the usual politics and rubbish that's been pedaled for years.
This would I would think, put off a lot of people who might like to contribute but fail to do so because of the above.
What's happened to the basic concept of Wude? Of simply agreeing to disagree without all the vitriol , the sniping, snide remarks?
Many talk of the heart, essence and spirit but few if any actually enact it.
This happen in all forums. Let me just copy a short post from another forum (this post was not addressed to me but addressed to someone else). As far as I can remember, I have never used words such as "You are wrong" in any of my online discussion for the past 15 years. When someone responds with such post, it puts you in defense mode.
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You are wrong! I know you think you understand ..., but you don't.
Greetings,
The maroon borders are an improvement, as well as the increase in character size. And the darkened yellow border, too. I am down to 100 air conditioners.
Somebody has been listening!!!
mickey
I also think the maroon helped a lot...I may take my coat off and stay a while...
:) Does make for warm and cozy.
Which is why I've found it more enjoyable, for the past 8 years or so, to joke around!
What strangers? Most strangers don't last long. Those who stay long enough are no longer strangers!:eek:
I've tried it. It isn't all its cracked up to be!:(
You are welcome! It is true I have blessed many here with my presence!
And those who have not been blessed.......well......that's just their own fault!:p
You can't make a purse out of a pig's ear! (And NO!:mad: I did not steal that from the greatest martial artist of the modern age! How dare anyone accuse me of such a thing!:mad:)
Less posters = less supervision = more time for nachos!;)
Edit: And for entertaining Ninjettes!:cool:
Humour is good. It's not easy to be a marital artist, and the humour between comrades on the path is a pretty excellent thing. But for you, and for others, like Bawang, although you raise a laugh now and then, it's not really the humour of comrades. Bawang summed it up when he/she said that he/she was just the microbes left after wushu had died: if all you have left is to jokej around, then it makes me wonder if that's because you don't feel that what you do is really of value. For me, the best jokes come from knowing that what I do, and what I pursue, is of significant value. (Not that I mind being made fun of - that's never a probem. I laugh at myself all the time - there's actually nothing funnier than trying to find out what's really what.)