"Tun To Fau Chum" and tendon
When I read pak mei guys' posts I feel that the concept of "Tun To Fou Chum" allows to generate power (or jing) with biomechanical principle.
In other hand, I am told that the jing is a work of the tendons.
Where is the principle of the jing? In biomechanic or in tendon? Are they complementary? If it is the case, I can easily figure out how to work out the biomechanical stuff (by the sets). But I do not see how do pak mei guy deals with the tendon work out.By a specific exercise? By tao?
I might misunderstood the concept of "Tun To Fou Chum". That concept and Tendon concept might be the same thing.
So where is the truth?
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Lucky there are SCIENTISTS on the board...
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Fast glycolytic has the largest diametere and produce the most powerful contractions, but they have few blood vessels and few mitachondria, therefore they appear white (like tendons). We all know how fast and powerful a shark is when it attacks its food. Interestingly when u dissect a shark lot of its muscles appear white. I don't remember the percentage of white to red muscle, but i know it is high. I haven't studied the squid so i don't really know its physiology, i do know it is made up of mostly connective type tissue. I think it moves by sucking and shooting water out, like a jet engine does to air. [/quote]
Other than the waterjet propulsion miss, this is pretty much my point. Good to have the help from the young and schooled.
Of course Meltdawn has a good point with the reaction thing. It being all fig.8's, since there are no straight lines per se, where it starts and ends may not be the point.
The "muscle" idea is fine, except that naturally it's the tendons that attach them to the bones and we all know we aren't talking about "strength".
It's cool that everyone is their own resident expert. It's great to have one around the house... *moan*
Friends Further Technical Views
Western Anatomical Features :
TENDONS
- A Muscle is usually atached to bone/or cartiladge via a tendon.
- A Tendon is a tough cord of connective tissue composed of closely packed collagen fibres. It is extension of the deep fascia and/or the epimysium surrounding the muscle. It extends into the priosteum that covers the bone.
- Other than simple being attachments, tendons add length & thickness to muscles, it is extremely important in reducing muscle strain and it adds strength to muscle action.
MUSCLE ACTION
1. Agonist (Prime Mover) - ie primary muscles responsible for movement.
2. Antagonist (Anti-Prim. Mover) - Opposes the prim. moverement in a subtle way. Not when contracting but only at the end of a strong contraction to protect the joints [cooperates rather than opposes]
3. Synergist - together as an in-between joint when a prim. mover passes more than one joint.
4. Fixator/Postural Muscle - provides a stable base of action for the prim. mover. Usually steadies the proximal end (ie arm) while actual movement is occuring at the distant end (ie hand).
According to the 3 'general' overall jing definitions -
Hard Jing - Visible as tensded muscles
Soft-Hard Jing - Like a Whip , great deal of
force in short span of time, done with the elasticity and counter supporting motion of the tendons, instigated by muscle pulses.
Soft Jing - Less visible less muscle tension very fluid and flowing supported by Qi at the more adv.level.
According to the Chinese view:
'LI' Muscles strength/power is derived from bones and muscles.
'JING' arises vire tendons, supported by Qi and propagated by pulse like muscle interaction between changes,
Thus as tendons are emphasized muscle fibres can be relatively relaxed thus Qi is more flowing ..more so at the advanced viewpoint. Utilising the tendons as such it is easier to become flexible and more elusive.
To Compare LI-Muscle Pwr & Jing-Pwr.
-Li stagnant, Jing is fluid
-Li is dull, Jing is sharp
-Li is Rigid (Sluggish/Stiff), Jing is concaved(Smooth/agile/alive)
-Li has shape (Can be seen), Jing no shape(needs to be felt)
-Li is Diffuse(spread), jing is concentrated
The more the muscles relax the more Qi can be used, allowing tendon elasticity and propagation to takeover the manifesting control of the motion keeping it flowing in a pulse like fashion.
Root are the legs, Waist is the director, Back is the emitting support of force.
Methods of manifesting Jing rather than Muscle power are by observing some of the following points :
- Spirit makes action alive
- Balanced (action & reaction counter balanced)
- Relaxed Body
- Whole body as one
- Like a Pulse
- Accumulate before generating ( like a bow & arrow...coil body, hollow the chest, arching the back, compressing and coiling like a spring)
- Make the generating effort as above unseen
- speed in action, that usually does not exhaust rather the momentum of one jing action to another makes it even faster.
- Supported by Qi.
Til Later
Shi Chan Long
oh...my little somethings
Jik - Straight & Direct, pinpoint and threw without hesitation of inbetweens. Forward surging
Chum - Heavy but maliable
Sing - Flowing but connected, transformable but rising without losing source
Gang - Sudden without motion, from all directions without aim for a direction, direct but non pinpointing, everywhere but from only one source. Like a canon.
Regards
Shi chan Long
Can Kull contact me or anyone else explain this.......
"power= strength x speed of muscle contraction"
This formula doesn't really explain things for me at all.
Power (watts) is the rate at which work is done so
Power= force x velocity.
Know this sounds picky but there isn't really a recognised method for measuring strength that two people can agree on. I wouldn't equate strength with force as there are many types/definitions of strength...
Can someone clarify further or send me an e-mail to keep this from clogging the thread?
Thanks, R
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