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The Eight Hard Ways (Ba Gong Sao)
(Taken from authenickungfu.com Webpage)
1. Tai San Ngat Ding (C)
"Mountain Tai Falls On The Inscense Burner"
(Chopping Down Motions)
2. Ying Mien Jik Tong (C)
"Punching Straight To The Face"
(Straight Forward Motions)
3. Sun Bo Seung Jeung(C)
"Advancing Body With Double Palms"
(Double Palm Motions)
4. Dip Gow An Gong (C)
"Sticking And Elbowing Hard"
(Upward and Downward Elbow Breaking Motions)
5. Tip Moon Kau Bei (C)
"Sticking To The Door Leaning Hard"
(Ramping Techniques)
6. An Bong Fok Tsai (C)
"Strike Hard Above And Kick Below"
(Illusive Techniques)
7. Chor Yau Seung Gwan(C)
"Left and Right Hooking Attacks"
(Confusing Techniques)
8. Sut Sao Lun Fun(C)
"Blocking Midline Attacks To The Side Then Chopping"
(Midline Defensive Motions)
Ref:
(C) -Cantonese
(R) -Mandarin
Hi BeiTanglang,
Great Start with the 8 Hard. :) There are a few thoughts that I would like to share.
<<<The Eight Hard Ways (Ba Gong Sao)
(Taken from authenickungfu.com Webpage)>>>
I think the term Ba Gang Shou (R) would refer to actual techniques; while Ba Gang Fa (R) would refer to principle. Arguable, we could apply fussy logic in this case. I feel Ba Gang Shou would give a much more precise meaning to the group of techniques that followed although Ba Gang Fa would better fit the bracketed explanations, which are principle oriented.
<<<1. Tai San Ngat Ding (C)
"Mountain Tai Falls On The Inscense Burner"
(Chopping Down Motions) >>>
Tai Shan Ya Ding - Mount Tai Press upon the crown
I like the explanation in principle (pun intended). I also prefer to express this as:
Principle :- Heavy strike that of a chopping down or sling shot motion to the high line (ie the head).
technical :- Attack with Hammer fist or back fist to the vital area(s) of the head. [see "Ba Da Ba Bu Da"]
Note: back fist (beng chui) that sling shot to the head is known as "small mount Tai press upon the crown" Xiao Taishan Ya Ding.
I think the following ones can use the same format. It could be even more elaborate if we add in references to the 8 strike and 8 forbiden strike area(s). I love to hear the feed back on whether this format is clear enough before spending time on the rest of the material.
<<<Ref:
(C) -Cantonese
(R) -Mandarin>>>
That's handy. Thanks BeiTangLang.
Mantis108
Northern praying mantis
four methods of attacking
chui - punching
ti - kicking
na - grappling
shuai - throwing
stepping - bu
qima bu - horse riding step
dengshan bu - hillclimb step
kuahu bu - striding tiger step
qixing bu - seven star step
ruhuan bu - kneeling step
fangong bu - reverse bow step
yuanhou bu - monkey step
duli bu - hang leg step
niu bu - twist step
tunchang bu - engulfing step
che bu - withdraw step
jin bu - advancing step
gai bu - change up step
xie bu - angle step
tou bu - stealing step
dengyong bu - stride step
tiao bu - jumping step
da zhuan bu - large turning step
punching methods - chui fa
bu chui - filling punch
zhi tong chui - straight gathering punch
feng tong chui - grab gathering punch
quan chui - circle punch
beng chui - backfist punch
tiao tong chui - carry gathering punch
cai tong chui - pluck gathering punch
shi zi chui - cross punch
di qian chui - low drag punch
pang chui - bladder punch
ding qi chui - penetrate navel punch
lan chui - collesting punch
fanche chui - wheel punch
lulu chui - rumble punch
shuang zhuang chui - double strike punch
gua shou tong chui - hang hand straight punch
jie chui - stop punch
pi chui - split punch
wodu chui - stomach punch
tou xin chui - steal mind punch
chuan chui - penetrating punch
di sao chui - low sweep punch
gai ma chui - hidden horse punch
lan ma chui - grasp horse punch
dan bian chui - single whip punch
lan chui - hindering punch (grasping punch)
cuo chui - file punch (uppercut)
Palm methods - zhang fa
cha zhang - thrust palm
qi zhang - level palm
pie zhang - skim palm
fan zhang - returning palm
lou zhang - leaking palm
ying mian zhang - thrust at face palm
tiao zhang - carry palm
tun zhang - stamp palm
shuang tun zhang - double stamp palm
gun zhang - rolling palm
qie yao zhang - chop waist palm
fan tian yin - overturn heaven stamp
lian huan cuo zhang - continues file palm
mo pan zhang - millstone palm
jin bu shuang zhang - advancing double palm
lian huan tun zhang - continues stamp palm
leg methods - tui fa
cun tui - short leg
ga tui - stop leg
heng deng tui - side kicking leg
chuan xin tui - piercing leg
bi men tui - close door leg
jiu tui - seizing leg
quan jiao - circle foot
bei ti tui - rear kicking leg
pu tui - pouncing leg
shi zi tui - cross leg
gua tui - hang up leg
bai lian tui - outside swing leg
deng pu tui - splitting leg
fan shen tui - turning inside swing leg
dan fei tui - single flying leg
shuang fei tui - double flying leg
lian huan tui - continuous legs
xuan feng tui - tornado leg
sao tang tui - front sweep leg
hou sou tui - rear sweep leg
wo zhan tui - lie down & turn leg
cheng gong tui - successful leg
hand methods - shou fa
diao shou - hook hand
lou shou - grappling hand
feng shou - grab hand
gou lou cai shou - hook grapple pluck hand
gua shou - hang hand
zhan shou - adhering hand
tiao shou - lifting hand
gun shou - rolling hand
lou shou - leaking hand
tou shou - stealing hand
chan si shou - rapping silk hand
chuan suo shou - shuttle hand
hei hu tou xin - black tiger steals the mind (heart)
kou bu zhan yao - strike step the waist
yin yang shou - negative and positive hand
kua bu hu shou - stride step curve hand
yan qing po shou - green sparrow break hand
bu chan - catching cicada
finger methods - zhi fa
qu yan - take the eyes
jin hou - golden throat
zhua mian - claw the face
eight elbows - ba zhou
die zhou - folding elbow
shen zhou - sinking elbow
guai zhou - entrapping elbow
nian zhou - adhering elbow
zhuang zhou - colliding elbow
shuang ti zhou - double raising elbow
pan zhou - coiling elbow
ding zhou - head elbow
I found this list:
http://www.authentickungfu.com/seven...lanations.html
It's interesting, my Shifu always refers to the four attack methods as: dian (attack pressure points), da (hit=kick, punch, elbow, slap, etc.), shuai (throw), and na (grab).
Here are a few notes and terms from my teachings....... the 12 CHARACTERS
1. ZHAN - ( CONTACTING ) MEETING OPPONENTS FORCE
2. NIAN - ( STICKING ) MOVING WITH OPPONENTS MOVEMENTS
3. BANG - ( LINKING ) KENTIC ENERGY
4. TIE - ( PRESSING ) WARDING OFF OPPONENTS FORCE
5. LAI - ( INTRUDING ) MOVING INTO OPPONENTS SPACE
6. JIAO - ( PROVOKING ) SETTING UP OPPONENT
7. SHUN - ( MOVING ALONG ) SLIDING WITH OPPONENTS FORCE
8. SONG - ( SENDING ) PUSHING OFF OPPONENT
9. TI - ( LIFTING ) LIFTING OPPONENTS LIMBS OR TORSO
10. NA - ( GRABBING ) GRABBING OPPONENTS LIMBS
11. FENG - ( BLOCKING ) BLOCKING OPPONENTS STRIKES
12. BI - (LOCKING ) LOCKING OPPONENTS LIMBS
and our long and short foot work from 8 step
BA TUN BU ( 8 LONG STEPS )
1.BA BU – ( LONG LEAPING STEP ) FLYING FOOTWORK
2.CHANG BU – ( LONG STEP ) AT AN ANGLE
3.DAI BU - ( CROSS STEP ) SIDEWAYS
4.RU WAN BU – ( FAKE STEP ) IN ONE DIRECTION MOVE ANOTHER
5.NUO BU – ( CIRCULAR STEP ) SIDEWAYS CIRCULAR FAKING MOTION
6.CAUN BU – ( JUMPING DODGING STEP ) EVADING A PUNCH
7.XING BU – ( RETREATING STEP ) ZIG ZAG SKIP BACKWARD
8.TUO BU – ( FORWARD STEP ) FOLLOW WITH SAME FOOT STEP
BA CHING BU ( 8 SHORT STEPS )
1.HEN YE BU – ( SIDE STEP ) DEFENSIVE STEP TO AVOID A PUNCH
2.SAN JIAO BU – ( TRIANGLE STEP ) 3 PART FORWARD STEP MOTION
3.FANG XING BU –( SQUARE STEP ) DODGING FORWARD & BACKWARD
4.MEI HUA BU – ( FIVE CORNER STEP ) STEP AROUND OPPONENT
5.LIU XING BU – (TWO TRIANGLE STEP) POINTED OPPOSITE DIRECTION
6.QI XING BU – ( 7 STAR STEP ) FORWARD TRIANGLE
7.ZOU ZHAN BU – ( 3 STEP ) FOLLOW FOOT 3 STEP FORWARD & BACK
8.BA GUA BU – ( 8 CHANGING STEP) TURNING IN A CIRCULAR FASHION
Here are some terms taken from the WHF version of the White Ape Steals the Peach set with the Chinese characters and the Mandarin pronunciations:
Stances
登 山 Deng Shan - Ascend the Mountain
入 環 Ru Huan - Enter the Ring
撤 步 Che Bu - Withdraw Step
蹤 步 Zong Bu - Trace Step
跨 虎 Kua Hu - Straddle the Tiger
Hand Techniques
掛 統 捶 Gua Tong Chui - Hang Gathering Strike
封 統 捶 Feng Tong Chui - Seal Gathering Strike
挑 統 捶 Tiao Tong Chui - Carry Gathering Strike
單 臂 爪 Dan Bi Zhao - Single Arm Claw
番 車 式 Fan Che Shi - Wheel Pattern
穿 梭 式 Chuan Suo Shi - Shuttle Pattern
劈 軋 Pi Ya - Splitting Stop
劈 圈 Pi Quan - Splitting Circle
挫 捶 Cuo Chui - Uppercut Strike
仰 膀 Yang Pang - Admire Arm
橫 圈 Heng Quan - Horizontal Circle
黏 肘 Nian Zhou - Sticky Elbow
Leg Techniques
踢 腿 Ti Tui - Kick Leg
撑 腿 Cheng Tui - Prop Up Leg
大 擺 蓮 Da Bai Lian - Big Swinging Lotus
連 環 腿 Continuous Legs
雙 飛 腿 Shuang Fei Tui - Double Flying Legs
Richard A. Tolson
Hey Moonyingmantis,
Thanks for the character upload it makes it a lot easier to understand the meaning that's being implied.
Definitely appreciated, ill see if I can contribute some aswell.
Ba Zhou of Tai Ji Tang Lang Quan terminology:
围回 臂 肘 wéi huí bì zhŏu encircle return/circle arm elbow
盘 肘 pán zhŏu coil elbow
膈 肘 gér zhŏu diaphragm elbow
臂 肘 bì zhŏu arm elbow
扑 肘 pū zhŏu rushing elbow
插 肘 chā zhŏu piercing elbow
抱 肘 bào zhŏu hold/carry elbow
龙 肘 lóng zhŏu dragon elbow
封 肘 fēng zhŏu closing/sealing elbow
补 肘 pû zhŏu filling/mending elbow
栽 肘 zāi zhŏu falling elbow
頓 肘 dun zhou stamping/bowing elbow
Thought this might interest someone!
Here is the terminology we use at my school in North Canton, Ohio:
刁 法 Diāo Fa Wicked Methods
Zhăo Fa Claw Methods
躋 爪 rising claw (ji zhao)
掃 爪 sweeping claw (sao zhao)
圈 爪 circling claw (quan zhao)
崩 爪 smashing claw (bung zhao)
衝 爪 colliding claw (chong zhao)
穿 爪 piercing claw (chuan zhao)
Gōu Fa Hook Methods
勾 手 hook hand (gou shou)
捕 蟬 catch cicada (bu chan)
纏 絲 wrap silk (chan si)
項 勾 neck hook (xiang gou)
低 勾 lower hook (di gou)
雙 勾 double hooks (shuang gou)
Hey Richard nice to see your still active. how you doing my friend.
regards roy:D
Hey Roy,
Yep been spending more time training and translating and less time posting on forums. :D
snap.LOL just so much to train. glad to hear your well Richard.:D
I saw this thread and decided to add some of the details I know. Below are some of the concepts for 7*PM. The romanizations for everything are Yale Cantonese as I find it the easiest to maintain correct pronunciation. Cantonese also stays true to the 7*'s Hong Kong lineage.
IMPORTANT: Do not read too much into the English translations. I wrote them in a manner that would be easiest for me to remember what they are, but they are not fully encompassing of the principle they describe. I truly feel that in order to completely describe the principle you'd need to write pages of text!
十二柔手 - Sahp Yih Yàuh Sáu - 12 Soft Principles
1 - 見剛而囘手 - Gin Gōng Yìh Wúi Sáu - Yield the right of way to the hard
2 - 入手而偷手 - Yahp Sáu Yìh Tàu Sáu - Steal the beat from the advancing opponent
3 - 截手而滾手 - Jiht Sáu Yìh Kwàn Sáu - Intercept and empty
4 - 滾手而漏手 - Kwàn Sáu Yìh Lahu Sáu - Slipping around and through the defenses
5 - 直統而抅手 - Jihk Tóng Yìh Àu Sáu - Attach the hook to straight attacks
6 - 採手而入手 - Choí Sáu Yìh Yahp Sáu - Advance immediately after contact
7 - 摟手而進手 - Láu Sáu Yìh Jeun Sáu - Attack while simultaneously dragging
8 - 磕手而入手 - Hahp Sáu Yìh Yahp Sáu - Pressing to the outside and advance
9 - 撲手而入手 - Pok Sáu Yìh Yahp Sáu - Pressing downward and advance
10 - 挑手而入手 - Tìu Sáu Yìh Yahp Sáu - Lifting and advance
11 - 開手而叠手 - Hoì Sáu Yìh Dihp Sáu - Stacking the arms
12 - 粘手而破手 - Jìm Sáu Yìh Po Sáu - Stick to and break the attack (Chin Na)
八剛手 - Baat Gōng Sáu - 8 Hard Principles
1 - 太山壓頂 - Taai Sāan Ngaat Déng - Falling Attacks
2 - 迎面直統 - Yìhng Mihn Jihk Túng - Straight Attacks
3 - 順步雙掌 - Seuhn Bouh Sēung Jéung - Double Palms & Body Move in Sync
4 - 疊肘硬供 - Dihp Jáu Ngaahng Gūng - Elbow Attacks
5 - 貼門靠壁 - Tip Mùhn Kaau Bīk - Stick & Lean Attacks
6 - 硬崩伏低 - Ngaahng Bāng Fuhk Dāi - Illusive Attacks
7 - 左右雙運 - Jó Yauh Sēung Wahn - Circular Attacks
8 - 摔捋兩分 - Sēui Tyut Léuhng Fān - Separation Attacks
31 Keywords (LKW)
1 - 抅 - Àu
2 - 摟 - Láu
3 - 採 - Chói
4 - 掛 - Gwa
5 - 刁 - Dìu
6 - 崩 - Bàng
7 - 粘 - Jìm
8 - 黏 - Nìhm
9 - 貼 - Tip
10 - 靠 - Kaau
11 - 閃 - Sím
12 - 騰挪 - Tèngh Nòh
13 - 挫 - Cho
14 - 統 - Tóng
15 - 挑 - Tìu
16 - 封 - Fùng
17 - 補 - Bóu
18 - 圈 - Hyùn
19 - 勢劈 - Sai Pek
20 - 纏 - Chìhn
21 - 偷 - Tàu
22 - 漏 - Lahu
23 - 翻 - Fàan
24 - 頂 - Díng
25 - 榜 - Bóng
26 - 碎 - Seui
27 - 捋 - Tyut
28 - 提 - Tàih
29 - 彈 - Tàahn
30 - 脱 - Tò
31 - 楸 - Chàu
Perhaps I'll come back later to add more and also toss on the English translations to the 31 keywords.
Here are a couple Tai Ji Mei Hua Tang Lang Quan terms that I haven't seen added here yet:
錐 子 拳 awl character fist (zhuī zi quan)
框 捶 frame punch (kuàng chui)
It has been some time and no one added the translations... I needed the translations and got them at the previously mentioned page www.authentickungfu.com. No work from my side except for Pinyin for those who can't read characters and copying the stuff together. I was unable to read the cantonese terms but it was at least easy to map them to the correct characters.Quote:
Originally Posted by DBAC
1.抅 ju1 Hook
2.搂 lou3 Grapple
3.采 cai3 Pull
4.挂 gua4 Block
5.刁 diao1 Intercept
6.崩 beng1 Chop
7.粘 zhan1 Contact
8.黏 nian2 Cling
9.贴 tie1 Tag
10.靠 kao4 Lean
11.闪 shan3 Dodge
12.腾挪 teng2 nuo2 Bounce
13.挫 cuo4 Dent
14.统 tong3 Straight Forward
15.挑 tiao1 Ward Off
16.封 feng1 Grab
17.补 bu3 Supplement
18.圈 quan1 Circle
19.势劈 shi4 pi1 Powerful Chop
20.缠 chan2 Wrap
21.偷 tou1 Filch
22.漏 lou4 Slip
23.翻 fan1 Flutter
24.顶 ding3 Prop
25.榜 bang3 Topple
26.碎 sui4 Sieze
27.捋 lü3 Strike
28.提 ti2 Hang
29.弹 tan2 Spring
30.脱 tuo1 Cast Off
31.楸 qiu1 Sprout
I'm still in search for the characters to the rest of the information provided on authentickungfu.com. Some of the Cantonese (it is Cantonese, isn't it?) is so hard to understand that I can't think of a Mandarin character that could sound alike. And the Cantonese romanization also doesn't seem to be standardized. If I copy the stuff from there to an online Cantonese dictionary, it does not necessarily spit out a translation...
Did anyone translate the stuff there to characters and could provide the information?