Footwork and kicking

An opinion from another forum:

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Boxers only have a hard time handling kicking if they haven't trained against kicking. Why would you assume that a footwork system that is very mobile and evasive would have a problem with kicking?

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Boxers have a problem with kicking because the front foot is weighted, often turned in, the rear foot is not turned out, hips are back and not square, and they completely lack specific ideas to deal with kicking from such a disadvantaged stance.

A MT stance has an unweighted front foot pointing forward, hips are forward and square, and the rear foot is turned out- bad for getting hips into punches, good for kicking, kick counters, clinch grappling in the Thai way.

Horses for courses. Adding boxing footwork to VT which already has kicking ideas is a retrograde step

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ7bbmjtAB0

Dutch Thai-boxing has adopted the front stance from Kyokushin. Many Karate lineages favor front stance. I think Wong Shun Leung mentioned Karate's front stance favorably somewhere.

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Originally Posted by Cataphract

Dutch Thai-boxing has adopted the front stance from Kyokushin. Many Karate lineages favor front stance. I think Wong Shun Leung mentioned Karate's front stance favorably somewhere.

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Yes kyokushin stance is a compromise stance, not as extreme as traditional MT which sometimes even turns the front foot out in order to square hips, but still retaining good defensive potential in terms of leg kicks, knees, clinch grappling. Compared to traditional MT stance it is a bit narrower, faster, a bit more power potential from hips for punching. Compared to boxing stance it is much less vulnerable to kicks, knees, clinching.

Good video.

If lacking long-range strategy and tactics in Wing Chun, borrowing from boxing is a bad idea if not looking to fight under their ring rules.

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Originally Posted by LFJ

Good video.

If lacking long-range strategy and tactics in Wing Chun, borrowing from boxing is a bad idea if not looking to fight under their ring rules.

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Correct. Videos of the deficiencies of boxing at long range where kicks are allowed are easy to find. Boxing footwork simply doesn't work under this expanded ruleset.

Boxers developed their footwork to work in that specific platform. If kicks, sweeps, and takedowns are fair game, then something else must be employed. That's why we do what we do. FWIW, I go to a lot of Karate, TKD, and Kenpo schools and dominate them with my footwork. Our footwork is designed to deal with kickers. Once you're in close range, they now have a serious problem because those arts that focus heavily on kicks don't generally have an answer for our close range hand techniques.

Among the WT/WC/VT lineages, there are several different variations of footwork, each with their strengths and weaknesses.

Our footwork is very specific and technical.