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Haven't bought it yet, but the promo-teaser looks real good. I like his nhb, mma approach - it's not just about catch wrestling. Real street-wise stuff, including what looks like some good boxing, knees, elbows, kicks, etc.
Here's the promo: http://www.paladin-press.com/product/1142/18
:D tony Cecchine... :D funny stuff man.:D Good times. Maybe I should do a DVD too. I'll call it ... How to kill people in a fight, no tapping allowed.:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultimatewingchun
Is it the marketing of the product or the person (Tony) that you don't like? Just curious I have only heard good things about Tony before.Quote:
Originally Posted by monji112000
I actually appear in the series. Tony's very proud of it -- and in a way, it is the unofficial sequel to Lost Art of Hooking.
I can't speak to the marketing. All I can tell you is that it doesn't try to sell you magic bullets. Lots of stress put on the fundamentals, beginning with stance, level changing, head movement, etc., on the feet -- with an emphasis on closing distance. You can't score a take down from a half-mile away, after all (unless you get lucky, or you are fighting either an unskilled guy or a guy who is comfortable fighting off his back -- which is not really a good idea in a street fight, but hey, to each his own).
Reviews thus far have been great.
What we are beginning to stress more and more is getting inside and scoring hooks off of takedowns or throws with a high percentage (eg., high crotch take down directly into a top wrist lock or a heel hook, depending on where your momentum takes you).
Anyway, it's good stuff, and I'm happy that I got to be a part of it. Over 16 hours of material on the 12-disc set.
if you have only heard good things about tony then you really need to read the grappling forums alot more:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Kevin73
LMAO i personally loved this bitQuote:
Originally Posted by monji112000
good god do people actually still buy these tapes why dont just go to a good MMA school and learn this stuff from someone who can actually make it work:rolleyes:Quote:
Arguably the most brutal mixed martial art practiced today, catch wrestling's devastating arsenal of strikes
Frost, you'd better watch it. Pretty soon people will accuse you of being another t.
Go to school, learn from someone who knows how to do it. :eek: Whats wrong with you man? Next thing you know your going to suggest rolling.
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i know silly isn't it, i mean why go and learn from a good coach directly whose students actually compete when you can instead spend a fortune on a dvd set from someone who has never competed at any level ( i know i know he has a bad back:rolleyes: )and who apparently made up his golden gloves boxing wins:DQuote:
Originally Posted by m1k3
Ugh. The same silly lies and misinformation, passed on years and years and years later.
First off, I've trained at Tony's gym. Second, I know people Tony's trained who have competed and won -- from Jason Godsey at Pancrase to Mike Martelle to Shoney Carter (who appears in one of Tony's early seminar tapes and is being taught a double wrist lock and a wrestling escape from the guard).
Too often, people like "Frost" feel the need to show off their vast knowledge of internet rumor -- without giving the material any kind of objective review. THAT'S what's silly.
Not everyone thinks competing in MMA is the height of achievement as a fighter. Tony has NEVER had any interest in it, in fact. But take it from someone who's trained with him: he knows his stuff, and it's very real.
If you are in to training for grappling competitions, Tony did a DVD series with a jiujitsu black belt (who has long testified to Tony's skills).
In his new book, Rough and Tumble, Erik Paulson includes a chapter on Cecchine, praising Tony's skills and material.
At any rate, the age of the internet back and forth bashing is done. YouTube allows you to take a look at the clips for yourselves and make an informed decision. There are several clips up from Snap, No Tap. It's a great series.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU9CjBIxD8U
lol at rumour and hearsay, are you honestly saying people dont say bad things about tony, people who have been rpped off by him?Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffG
some other facts he claimed to be a golden gloves champ, when no record of him exists, fact he has never competed
No offense but as i said why would i learn from him when i have access to guys who compete and who train ufc fighters...not have then at a seminar but actually train them full time? why would anyone......
trane ufc fighters, IMO.
Does Tony teach some good stuff, yes
Does Tony have some skill, yes
Has Tony made claims that turned out to be lies, yes
Has Tony ripped off people who paid him money, yes
Has Tony's mouth and bad attitude made enemies out of a lot of people, yes
Claiming to be the ONLY representative of catch wrestling, bad mouting Gene LeBell, bad mouthing a host of Japanese fighters, bad mouthing sambo, bad mouthing BJJ, claiming to have tapped a black belt in BJJ then refusing to name them, etc have all gotten Tony a bad rep