Originally Posted by
Merryprankster
syn7,
The context of the thread was that UWC was claiming first that catch wrestling as a style is still truly existent (It's not, really, IMO), and that it was "superior" to BJJ.
My point was that the folks he was pointing to as successful "catch" people were, in fact really great wrestlers in folk, free or greco, with submission thrown in. Sakuraba trained "catch," sure, but he was also a national Japanese wrestling champ, as I recall.
I advocate and believe that it's all the same ****. Grappling is grappling. I've competed in various formats, and the rules make the style make the fight. Add pinning as a way to lose, and the guard and the knee and elbow escape would disappear from BJJ, etc. There's a reason that wrestlers do well in BJJ, AND vice versa (lots of young BJJers do very well in high school wrestling). It's because the principles are all the same and they are more alike than different. It's just that the rules aren't the same.
He didn't like that response, which resulted in his statement that catch will be big five years from the date of the post. Which it's not.
That's all.