Anecdotal evidence doesn't mean much, I know ... but it worked for me.Quote:
I heard some where the WC chin gung can turn you into an super stud
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Anecdotal evidence doesn't mean much, I know ... but it worked for me.Quote:
I heard some where the WC chin gung can turn you into an super stud
What is the purpose of chi kung in wing chun? why does the wc chi gung have to wc body frame?
good post i totally understand you!!!
I personally dont Feel That Chi gung needs to follow the wing chun structure...its chi gung not WC forms or san sik or drills. I dont see why you would be using chi gung against a resisting opponent. I see chi gung as lifting weights, not as an application of fighting. True enough some Chi Gung in the forms can be innovated as fighting applications but they are really energy drills. ne way why would you need to use chi gung to fight with...
What is your definition of chi gung? Why do you practice it?
"do you think it doesn't follow the wing chun body frame? Why does it flow in the complete opposite direction of WC structure?", maybe you could answer why you think it does?
Or, how you feel this position can be useful in using structure when dealing with live energy against an opponent in your WCK?
Qi gung is energy work, energy has no structure but support all structures.
The core of Real tcma ima qigong or internal art is dao follow nature. Nature is nature. Nature has no fix frame. One doesn't see water with fix shape.
Practice qigong without following nature is violating qigong practice.
Also, WCK doesn't have fix structure. Only abstract. Come accept ,goes send back ,let go move forward, using silence to lead action . Is the core. Take a look at Ipman WCK, koo lo WCK, chan wah WCK, these WCK from Leung jan but have different structures.
No offense to you Hendrix...but i feel i may already agree with you on this subject!!!
So the Questions is:
What is the purpose of Chi Gung?
Need to lay off that Purple Haze, bro.Quote:
No offense to you Hendrix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HObqZh_RTds
You're stronger if you have good structure. If "WCK doesn't have fix structure." then, you don't need to learn SNT, CHUM KIU, BIU JEE!Quote:
Also, WCK doesn't have fix structure. Only abstract. Come accept ,goes send back ,let go move forward, using silence to lead action . Is the core. Take a look at Ipman WCK, koo lo WCK, chan wah WCK, these WCK from Leung jan but have different structures.
Yoshiyahu,
Seriously man, you need to lay off the pipe/bottle/whatever. You start a many-page thread about Chi Gung, argue about what makes it WC or not WC and you don't even know what it's for?
As Ed Lover would say: C'mon Son.
http://www.entmoney.com/wp-content/u...onSon-Ep16.jpg
Dude, you started the thread by showing what you feel is WC chi gung and it being a part of WC. Instead of asking everyone else, you should be telling us it's purpose for being in WC as you put it!!
I'm surprised you can't answer that yourself! (well, maybe I'm not as surprised after reading your threads for a while now)
Wow dude, make up your mind (or lay down the pipe). Are you talking Chi Gung in general or Chi Gung in WC, which BTW is the the title of your thread? Chi Gung by itself it for energy clutivation (among other things). By itself, it doesn't need to follow any structures and has many benifits - no one is arguing that. Why are you having such a hard time understanding this? Should we try another language or use simpler words or something? :rolleyes:
Look, you're the one that started this thread with your idea of what is 'WC Chi Gung'. Once you make Chi Gung an integral part of the WC system, it should be supportive of that system and it's primary goal should be for developing WCK energetics and structural usage under the system's primary principles. Otherwise, just treat it as general excersize like any other suplimental training that you do in addition to your WC training and stop mixing things together.
Bottom line, that excersize in your orignal post is not a part of WCK as most everyone knows it. It breaks some of the most basic fundamental principles of WCK and does not work in developing any real, usable WCK body methods or energetics and therefore does not fit 'within' the system. But that doesn't mean is still isn't without benifit. It's just not WCK